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a passion for masochism and trauma:romanias (g)ptsd

Human bodies used to draw the dictators portrait. (Bucharest, August 1986)

Source: Communism in Romania Project. National History Museum of Romania.

For the past twenty-three years, Romanians have been suffering of Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD). The

fact that it was not recognized as such made it challenging to properly engage with its causes and deal with its

symptoms. Described as a medical condition occurring after a person has experienced or witnessed a traumatic

or terrifying event in which serious physical harm occurred or was threatened (WebMD ), in Romanias casethe PTSD was caused by Nicolae Ceausescus brutal personal dictatorship. As that took place at national level

and made the disorder a social phenomenon, it could be re-labeled in this case as Group Post-Traumatic Stress
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could at least plan accordingly. Time control, as was brilliantly shown by Katherine Verdery in the chapterThe Etatization of Time in Ceausescus Romania of her 1996 What Was Socialism and What Comes Next? , being one method through which the regime aimed to control the population )? Who cared that the regimes

scientists had decided how

Food line. Sometimes, people would queue up in front of the grocery stores simply waiting for merchandise to be delivered without

even knowing they might end up buying or even if there would be a delivery that day.

Photo: Andrei Pandele .

much meat, how many eggs, how many ounces of sugar, flour, oil, and even bread the population was allowed

to eat per month and they had even issued ratio cards to make sure that no one had more than the scientifically

prescribed portions (that is, if you didnt have the right connections within the state-owned food distributionsystem or you didnt become a black market customer)? Whose problem it was that although they lived in an

agricultural country Romanians could not buy decent fruit and vegetables, and what they could find for sale was

dirty, half rotten, or rejected for export, but deemed

Breadlines.

satisfactory for domestic consumption? For whom did it matter that one of the major events of every evening

was the electricity being turned back on after hours of cooking, eating, doing homework or playing in the

darkness, and that children even had a verse they chanted for the occasion: A venit curentul, baba cu

patentul./The old lady with the pliers, brought back the electric wires ? After all, the brilliant leader, as he was
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called by the state mass media, had committed to pay the countrys external debt to make sure that no othergovernment could ever interfere in Romanias affairs and, God forbid!, force it out of its isolation and

despotism.

Public transportation in 1980s Bucharest.

Photo: Andrei Pandele .

For four and a half decades of communist dictatorship, Romanians got used slowly, but inevitably, to being

victimized, taunted, and tormented. And, like a drug, they became addicted to abuse. That is why the

Revolution of December 1989 took them somewhat by surprise. They took themselves by surprise with the

courage to stand up to their oppressor, a courage they did not believe themselves to still have. But, as it turns

out, they were not prepared to be freed from abuse, leave behind the perpetual victim status and shake off the

inept political system and its mediocre leader.

In her 1969 seminal work On Death and Dying , Elisabeth Kbler-Ross determined the five stages of grief.

Without occurring in a particular order, she usually described them as denial, anger, bargaining, depression

and acceptance .*****

Unable to articulate their trauma for what it was, and deprived of a real lustration law until 2012 twenty yearstoo late which would have allowed for the healing to begin, Romanians confused their national trauma forloss . The loss of abuse. The Kbler-Ross model allows us point out the steps to healing.
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University Square, May 1990. Zone Free of Neo-Communism

The first stage was anger . Throughout the 90s, Romania was a gunpowder barrel. The opponents of the first

democratically-held elections in May 1990 occupied the University Square in downtown Bucharest to protest

against the newly-elected government and president of the country in an attempt to denounce them for their

privileged positions under the communist regime. They asked for a lustration law immediately and for the

elimination of all former communist party members from public life. They asked for a national trial of

communism and its crimes, a feat which Ceausescus military court and execution did not achieve, and which isstill a desideratum for many Romanians today. For some two months students, opposition party leaders,

journalists, and artists demonstrated peacefully against the government, recognizing that those who voted for

the same names and faces they knew from before did not understand what it meant to be able to express your

opinion freely, that they were still unconsciously trapped in the victim mentality and unable to make a different

choice. The demonstration in the University Square represented one of the first attempts at the health of the

nation. It was, however, brought to a violent end by the president elect Ion Iliescu who called upon the

countrys miners to help clean up Bucharest of fascists and drug users, and protect the victory of theDecember 1989 Revolution, in a discourse reminiscent of his 1950s Moscow education as a communist activist.

The miners came, and with righteous Bolshevik anger, punished everyone they could get their hands on:

opposition politicians, intellectuals, students, university professors. They pillaged, burned, stole and raped. Ion

Iliescu has never answered for the six deaths and the 700 wounded in June 1990 and he never took

responsibility for his acts.

Miners Invading Bucharest, June 1990.

And the violence continued throughout the first half of the 1990s. It took varied forms. In Transylvania,

Romanian-Hungarian inter-ethnic tensions, kept under artificial control by the communist regime for years,

exploded resulting in an outpouring of pent-up ethnic hatred. In Southern Romania, ethnic Roma clashed with

Romanians on various occasions. In parallel, a national angry reaction to everything perceived as a symbol of

the forcefully-imposed values was directed against patriotism, voluntary work, social involvement, and care for

fellow humans and for community. The results of that national anger are still visible today.
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It was that anger that led to the installation in power of a postcolonial governance , led by former second-

echelon communist

Miners punishing the University Square demonstrators. June 1990.

party leaders, such as regional organization secretaries, military and secret service officers hungry for powerand material benefits and ready for payback, and managers of state companies turned capitalists who got first

dibs on the privatization of the few profitable enterprises of Ceausescus moribund and monstrously

anachronistic industry and became millionaires. In short, the anger of the populace, together with its inability

to see through a different type of ideological manipulation, perpetrated openly, through mass media, allowed

for the Revolution profiteers to take over.

Unable to devise and apply any other leadership practices than the ones that they had learned as apprentices

and servants of their former masters, Romanias new political class installed a postcolonial system, thus

continuing the practices of the ancien rgime . In the long run, that gave the political observers the impressionthat the December 1989 street demonstrations against Ceausescu and communism were not spontaneous after

all, but the workings of a coup dtat conspiracy. It was Romanias postcolonial regime that permitted and

legitimized corruption at all levels, refused to adopt lustration laws, empowered profiteering and theft and

established a rotten oligarchy very much alive today.

Romanias postcolonialism lasted for about a decade, until 2000, and encompassed Ion Iliescu and EmilConstantinescus presidential mandates. Despite the fact that he was a president elected by the democraticopposition, Constantinescu was only able to prove once again that Romanians were tributaries to an

authoritarian state of mind. Undoubtedly animated by the desire to change the countrys political spectrum,the

opposition came into power in 1996 without the slightest idea of how to govern outside the structure imposed by the communist regime and perpetuated by their continuators, the Social Democratic Party of Romania

(today, the Social Democratic Party), from 1990 on. Once elected, the Christian Democrats and the National

Liberals strengthened the countrys postcolonial system and continued to lead it the same way as before,

authoritatively.

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understand better what happened to them as a nation from 1946 until 1989, and finally move on. Until then,

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1. Alex

Solutia.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nEP2eVbgd8

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2. L

I completely agree with the authors diagnosis on the Romanian people!

However, I do not see any solution to this dilemma, sadly, other than invading this country by a foreign power

and wipe out this god-forsaken, mentally broken nation.

Considering just how messed up over 90% of Romanians are (dont even get me started on the right-winged,orthodox-inspired obsessions & egocentricism), the best would be to get rid of each and every one of these Mid-

Europe losers and replace them with a nation that is indeed worthy, such as the Germans or Japanese.

Heres to hoping for a nuclear accident at Cernavoda, melting out this nation made out of greedy, selfish,

envious, corrupt humans that populate it temporarily!

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o George T. Sipos

Thank you for your thoughts, but lets not be extreme. The article is not intended to lambast

Romanians, but rather to present as they really are: victims of an abusive regime. That is what I believe

we need to make peace with before being able to move forward: the fact that we have been consistently

ideologically raped as a nation for years in a row. The tragedy is that we could not properly articulate

our status as victims and we thought of ourselves to be the bad guys. We even started taking pride in

being the bad guys of Europe.

This article came after several years of analyzing and trying to understand. An d I must say, I see hope and lots of it. Since last year, Romanias civil society has been coagulating

beautifully and it is ready to heal. It took us a bit longer than other Eastern European nations, but we

are there now. We are organizing ourselves to make our voice heard. We have public debates about

vital issues for the health of the nation: the corrupt government, the stray dogs, Rosia Montana.

I have faith and confidence that we are finally on right path.

Please check back to see my next article about Confuciuss Birth in Bucharest. :)

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Im sorry, but I cannot see hope for a nation that idolizes BOTH Ceausescu AND murderers

like Zelea Codreanu or Antonescu (although the latter had, from what I read, some really

good external affairs skills that partially redeem him), calling themselves christians while

completely agreeing with the Legionaries crimes. Yeah, no paradox there whatsoever.

From my point of view, this nation is too stuck up, too hypocritical and too artificially-inflated

cocky-ness to be allowed to exist in the next century. As long as we keep calling ourselves
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The Garden of the Mother of God and think ourselves the center of the universe (buriculpamantului), I have no pity or remorse towards this pitiful nation.

Of course, Im extremely biased since I have a deep hatred for weak (mentally speaking)

people. And the Romanians are as weak and naive and lamb-like as you can get.

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George T. Sipos

Once again, I respect your position, but it seems like mine is at odds with yours. No

problem, we can always debate. My blog is open if you would like to post a full-blown

rebuttal and support your argument. I find that to also be a sign of healthy behavior.

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o Jo

I dont know what your nationality is, but I can guess its American considering your sick will of

invading everything. What makes you a winner? The fact that you were born 300 or 3000 km away

from this Mid- europe losers? Germans??? who exterminated million of people? Indeed they are

winners! You obviously dont know anything about this country and if you live there shame on you! As

for a nuclear accident at Cernava I cannot wish but the same! But hopely that happens in you own

garden, so that normal people cannot be affected!
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o R

WTF?!?!? Hate much?!?!

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3. carare puiu

SIA,CIND POPULATIA DIN ROMANIA, NU ESTE MULTUMITA DE POLITICA UE, SI ATUNCI ESTE

POPORUL ROMAN CALIFICAT A FI BONLAV DE VRE-UN SINDROM ??? DECI DACA NU ESTIDEACORD CU POLITICA UE, IATA CA DEVII DINTR -O DATA NEBUN ! SINTEM NOI ROMANII SI ATUNCI NEBUNI CIND NU VREM CA VRE-UN MANSON SAU CONCERN STRAIN SA EXPLOATEZE

ROSIA-MONTANA ??? SINTEM NEBUNI CA NU NE LASAM EXPLOATATI ???

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Jo

Daca tu esti cel sau cea care a postat replica de mai sus in engleza, mie imi este rusine ca esti

conationalul meu!

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L

Amice, sa-ti fie clar: DETEST romanasii pt ca sunt o gloata de PROSTI. Istoria

acestui popor a demonstrat asta de nenumarate ori. Si pe langa faptul ca sunt

PROSTI, mai sunt si incredibil de TRADATORI. De ajuns sa observi cum am

schimbat domnitori ca pe sosete, nu a existat (in afara lui Stefan cel Mare) UN

SINGUR CONDUCATOR PE CARE SA NU IL FI DAT IN GAT.

Asa ca daca ti-e rusine, CARA-TE TU din tara MEA!

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George T. Sipos

@L. Haideti totusi sa nu cadem in extremisme. Cum este posibil in viziunea

dumneavoastra ca un intreg popor sa fie prost sau tradator?
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linksonice (@linksonice)

Prost si inca traumat esti dumneata, din pacate. Replicele de mai sus mai

mult sau mai putin dovedesc ce spune autorul in articol, dar asta nu

inseamna ca toti sunt asa ca tine, sau ca i-ar idoliza pe Ceasca sau pe

Codreanu. Conservatismul, ortodoxia, extremismul sau nostalgia dupa una

sau alta nu sunt specifice la Romani. Vindeca- te de aceasta auto-ur deneam si de sine (Dumnezeu stie ce ti s-a intamplat sa i ajuns atit de rau), si

vei ajunge la o anume claritate mai placuta. Pentru mine, ca Romn,

Romnii sunt cei mai faini oameni de pe lume (nu toti bine inteles, dar in

general vorbesc), si sunt mndru de a fi Romn. N-am dece sa-mi cer scuze

fata de nimeni, si nici tu.

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4. vladimimtriu

Oh come on, enough already

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6. Simone

Thank you . . . . .for such an insight. In the last 2 years of being connected to many wonderful warm Romanian

people via the social networks, predominantly concerning the rescue of the stray dogs, my heart breaks almost

daily for one or more of them these people love their country, but it seems to have never loved them back and it quite painful to be on the outside, and really feel their pain, and want to make things all right. . . . . The

slate does need to be wiped clean of the current politicians, of the mayoral structures, of the mafia-related

practices, the illegalities . . . . the good decent Romanian people work hard and keep their heads down and obey

the law. . . . .while their peace of mind, their values, their lives are attacked from all sides from politicians that

change their colours as the wind blows, from abuse from neighbours and criminals that never gets dealt with bypolice who have their own allegiances. . . . . .the time has come for the people to rise up in what ever way worksfor them, and challenge those who feel themselves untouchable. But it must be done with A Plan A Plan thatall good people can get behind. Thanks again.

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Frankly, Romanians rather suffer of the Stockholm Syndrome this explains the big percentage of thoseregretting the communist era:(

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8. sasha

Great piece George, it never occurred to me to think things from this PTSD angle! However, Id like to provide apossible explanat ion for the deploring the good times of the regime which has baffled me for a long while, as

much as I see it baffles you now.

The first step is to stop the nation-wide, overly broad generalizations. A very persistent trope of the communist

propaganda was that all living humans within the borders of Romania were supposed to be tovarasi to each

other, equal in all things measurable or not. This in fact cannot be true, it is not the way of nature and was

actually not even the intention of the PCR member s to follow this idea themselves; see all the special de partid

services and entitlements they have so gleefully enjoyed with no remorse. This imperative for sameness is very

alive today in peoples minds, when we routinely assign the stories/facts of some individuals to all thepopulation as a whole. You will have a terrible hard time convincing a Bavarian that whatever happens in the

Ruhr basin has anything to do with him.

Second, bearing the diversity in mind, I have come to realize that there is a much larger population group,

which turned out to be a net winner during the epoca de aur, than strictly speaking just the PCR and

administration apparatus. Before WWII, Romania was an incredibly backward, agricultural country, despite

some beacons of progress such as Bucuresti or Timisoara. A very large number of countryside dwellers moved

to the cities during communism to provide labor for the whole industrial madness. If you think that the

countryside is backwards now, imagine how it was then (go see some old 40s newsreels at the Cinemateca

Eforie). All these people have made giant personal leaps in means and conditions and they are very aware of

this. All this happened without a corresponding great effort in social competition and most importantly without

a leap in education. These people and their offspring are so many they are pretty right to think they ARE

Romania. You cannot imagine the disbelief in my schoolmatess eyes when I had to admit that I did not go latara during any holidays (Im a 4th generation city slicker, no tara to go to). EVERYBODY else went la tara
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and I mean there were maybe 2 other outliers in the whole school. Their ranks only have grown; they have not

been deported / sent to be country teachers God knows where / pushed out of the country as the thin pre-

existing layer of city folk were. I was deeply shocked when I realized that however bitter and dehumanizing

communism was, for very many it was a unique historical opportunity to easily jump ahead out of even greater

medieval misery. For very many, living in cramped apartments, having some electricity and some hot water, wasting time waiting for stuff was a net improvement of life quality they had a MUCH lower benchmark forcomparison! You can see this even today, when the truly educated and western-minded population is 10% tops,

only in the greater city areas.

So, there it is, I have come to believe people are genuinely sincere when they decry the wonders of communist

times. I do not jump to the conclusion anymore that this must be the case for everybody. What I and some

educated others see as a sea of sorrow and an open, impossible to close wound, happens to truly be for some a

blessing which turned sour after 89 when they actually had to survive in competition with others.

The only hope is that their 3rd and 4th generations are connected to the world and see the contemporary reality

for the dump it actually is. They may have some western aspirations, maybe well still be alive to see them

bloom.

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11. Victor

Until the young people in this country are taught moral and social values that transcend materialistic values

and aspire to a general well being, not just towards a selfish comfort zone, nothing will change. The so-called

thieves are passing their legacy, teaching their children to steal. Their children attend same education

institutions with the poor class, and as it always happens, the poor children start borrowing those values

because they want to be rich, cool and popular. So by the time they get out of high school, all the moral

education they had from their down to earth modest parent goes down the drain. At this stage most are willing

to chose the good path of hard work, honesty and trust in order to gain social and economic values but then the
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kick in the groin comes just as they finish university. They find themselves in a world based on connections,

bribery and lie. They cant get a decent job unless they know someone, they cant start a business unless they

bribe almost every institution that comes in the way. I dont want to sound pessimistic here, but the obstacles

are so many and so difficult, its hard not to think that they are in place precisely to deter anyone who wants to

do something to increase this countrys economy and their inhabitants well being.

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12. Andrei

Saracu, ce varza e astaL, sau cum i zice Excelenta analiza de caz, meci!

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Hi Larisa, and thank you for sharing the article on your Facebook page, and I am honored that it

actually managed to cause a debate there. I would love to see peoples reactions and responses, so if

you can think of a way of sharing them with me. Or, we can connect on Facebook if that is all right with

you.

Now, I should point out that there might be a misunderstanding as far as Germany and Japan are

concerned. I think that Germany is a good example of dealing with abuse and trauma as a nation after

WWII, but not Japan. Rather than defending their position, like the Japanese, the Germans took the blame full on for the crimes against humanity one of their compatriots committed and dealt with it.

The education system is one of the major ways in which they taught youngsters about what happened

during the war and did not keep any gory and horrifying details away from the children precisely

because they intended to shock and make sure that it never happens again.

What I think we need to do in Romania is also to educate the people (through campaigns and through

the education system) about the communist period, and especially about how it allowed for

Ceausescus dictatorship. Then, we need to understand clearly how much of what happened tous wasexternal and beyond our control, and how much was complacency, collaboration, profiteering, and

fear. Finally, we need a sustained and permanent international campaign, coordinated bygovernmental and private institutions, that would present this image of new Romania abroad.

At least, thats how I see things. Please stay in touch.

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George, referitor la : Cum este posibil in viziunea dumneavoastra ca un intreg pop or sa fie prost sau

tradator? raspunsul e simplu : In acelasi fel in care un intreg poporul sufera de (Group) Post-TraumaticStress Disorder

Am cateva remarci la articolul tau :

Romanias special case within the former Eastern European communist block as the most violent personaldictatorship..Ok, sa nu exageram, Romania nu e un caz special, forme de dictatura mult mai violente auexistat si inca mai exista pe planeta asta.Nu stiu de ce ni se pare ca suntem speciali si un caz aparte.Nu

suntem. Cel putin din punctul asta de vedere.

As a consequence, Romanians were not educated about how to understand themselves as victims of abuse Eu

nu stiu sau n-am auzit nicaieri in lumea asta la vreo alta natie trecuta prin asa ceva, sa fi iesit vreunul si sa zica

:Fratilor ,ati cam fost abuzati, asa ca iete colea ce-aveti de facut to deal with it in a healthy way.

Faptul ca ne-a fost greu, ca am dus-o naspa, ca ne- au chinuit unii si altiinu e o scuza.

Este ca si cum am fost abuzata vreo 40 de ani de so tul meu si, cand nenorocitul a crapat, de bucurie m-amprostituat. Iar dupa 20 de ani de prostitutie, vine unu si-mi spune : vai draga, dar cum de nu ti-ai dat seama ?De fapt ai ajuns sa te prostituezi pentru ca te-a traumatizat nemernicul. Nu e un pic stupid ? Poate ca aia am

vrut sau atat m-a dus pe mine capul.

Eu n- as da vina pe nemernic asta a fost alegerea mea in momentul acela.

Extrapoland, ceea ce suntem azi este suma alegerilor noastre. Iar alegerile noastre sunt conforme cu calitatea

noastra ca fiinte umane si apoi ca natie.

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Buna, Laura. Sa inteleg ca tu te ascundeai sub enigmatica litera L? :)

Iti multumesc, din nou, pentru pasiunea raspunsurilor tale. E foarte evident ca iti pasa mult de acest

subiect, asa ca vo incerca si eu sa iti raspund ca atare.

1. Suntem un popor prost si tradator. Mi se pare ca gresesti cand spui ca a spune ca un popor sufera de group PTSD este acelasi lucru cu a fi

prost sau tradator. Cele doua calificative pe care le folosesti sunt exact asta: calificative. Cu alte


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cuvinte, sunt o eticheta proiectata din afara, de un tert, asupra subiectului colectiv. De aici si reactia

mea ca un popor nu poate fi prost ca valoare intrinseca, ci aceal calificativ trebuie dat de cineva dinafara. Tradator e si mai complicat pentru ca ridica problema perspectivei celui care emite eticheta

respectiva. Tradator fata de cine? Nu exista tradare in absolut, exista tradare de prieteni, de aliati

samd. Pe cand un diagnostic de PTSD se poate da cu usurinta pe baza examinarii unor fenomeneexterne, fara implicarea subiectiva a diagnosticianului.

2. Au existat natii care au trecut prin ceea ce am trecut noi si-au recunoscut statutul de victima, si-au

analizat partea de participare voita sau nu si au creat un sistem prin care sa invete din greseli si sa se

re-inventeze. Germanii sunt una dintre aceste natiuni si poate exemplul cel mai de succes. Multe

dintre natiunile colonizate au facut variate incercari in aceasta directie la randu-le. Studiile rezultate

din experientele si incercarile prin care au trecut ele au dat nastere post-colonialismului, cu care post-

socialismul este asemuit adeseori.

In ceea ce priveste exemplul cu sotia abuzata, mi-e teama ca, desi tie ti se pare hilar, situatii de genul

celor descrise de tine chiar se intampla. Ai auzit de victime ale violului care trec prin PTSDidentificandu-se cu cel care le-a abuzat? Dar de tineri care cresc in case cu parinti abuzivi fizic sau

emotional (betivi cronici, narcisisti, etc) si sfarsesc prin a se auto-mutila (se taie cu lama, devin sado-

masochisti, etc)? Dar de fete care sunt abuzate sexual de tata sau de alta persoana mai in varsta in

timpul copilariei si sfarsesc in baruri de strip-tease, prostitutie samd? Asadar, desi pare contra-intuitiv pentru o persoana sanatoasa emotional cum esti tu, aceste situatii nu sunt nici imposibile si

nici rare.

3. In fine, alegerea personala. Da, aici tind sa iti dau dreptate: atata vreme cat tu, ca individ, esti

singurul/a care a facut alegerea de a te casatori cu cineva care sfarseste prin a te abuza, e poate mult

mau usor sa nu ramai cu cicatrice emotionale dupa ce nu mai sunt in viata ta.

Dar, in cazult romanilor, noi nu am ales nimic. Si aceasta distinctie este foarte importanta si ma lupt

cu ea de mai multa vreme, mai ales aici, in Statele Unite, unde multi au impresia ca tarile din fostul

lagar sovietic au ales sa fie comuniste. Romanii au fost victimele istoriei in acest caz, un poporsacrificat la masa unor negocieri criminale la finele celui de-al Doilea Razboi Mondial. Istoria noastra a

fost furata ireversibil in 1945. Acelasi lucru s-a intamplat si cu dictatura lui Nicolae Ceausescu. Ce-au

avut romanii de-a face cu alegerea lui drept secretar general al PCR in 1965? Nimic. Absolut nimic. De

aici vine si parerea mea ca trebuie sa invatam, oricat de umilitor ar fi, sa intelegem ce inseamna a fi

victimizat. Noi, ca romani, suntem un popor masculin, de sange latin, nu? :) Suntem macho si nu vrem

in ruptul capului sa acceptam ca ne-am lasat violati ideologic de un regim politic inept si de un

personaj fara educatie, fara carisma si fara coloana vertebrala. L-am executat ca pe un caine la perete

sperand ca asta ne va vindeca de multi anii in care am suferit, dar s-a dovedit ca fantoma lui ne va

bantui inca multe generatii. E, de fapt, prezenta si aici, langa mine, la birou, cand scriu aceste randuri,

ranjind tamp si cu un aer de superioritate.


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George, referitor la : Cum este posibil in viziunea dumneavoastra ca un intreg popor sa fie prost sautradator? raspunsul e simplu : In acelasi fel in care un intreg poporul sufera de (Group) Post-TraumaticStress Disorder

Am cateva remarci la articolul tau :

Romanias special case within the former Eastern European communist block as the most violent personaldictatorship..Ok, sa nu exageram, Romania nu e un caz special, forme de dictatura mult mai violente auexistat si inca mai exista pe planeta asta.Nu stiu de ce ni se pare ca suntem speciali si un caz aparte.Nusuntem, cel putin din punctul asta de vedere.

As a consequence, Romanians were not educated about how to understand themselves as victims of abuse Eu

nu stiu sau n- am auzit nicaieri in lumea asta la vreo alta natie trecuta prin asa ceva, sa fi iesit unu ( sau mai

multi ) si sa zica :Fratilor, ,ati cam fost abuzati,asa ca iete colea ce- aveti de facut to deal w ith it in a healthy

way.

Faptul ca ne-a fost greu, ca am dus-o naspa, ca ne- au chinuit unii si altiinu e o scuza.

Este ca si cum am fost abuzata vreo 40 de ani de sotul meu si, cand nenorocitul a crapat, de bucurie m-amprostituat. Acum, dupa 20 de ani de prostitutie, vine unu si-mi spune : vai draga, dar cum de nu ti-ai dat seama? De fapt ai ajuns sa te prostituezi pentru ca te-a traumatizat nemernicul.Nu e un pic stupid ? Poate ca aia am

vrut sau atat m-a dus pe mine capul.

Eu n- as da vina pe nemernic asta a fost alegerea mea in momentul acela.

Extrapoland, ceea ce suntem azi este suma alegerilor noastre. Iar alegerile noastre sunt conforme cu calitatea

noastra ca fiinte umane si la urma, ca natie.

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Buna George !

1.Nu, eu nu sunt L. Am vazut acest articol azi la cineva care l-a postat pe Facebook.Poate te-a derutat

comentariul meu dublu sub nume diferite. N-am vrut sa-l postez de doua ori, doar ca n-am stiut ca am cont pe

site-ul asta si mi-am facut unul ( inca unul de fapt) ca sa pot comenta. Incercarile mele de a comenta s-au

suprapus si de aia apar de doua ori.

Si n-am spus niciodata ca suntem un popor prost si tradator. Doar ca nu poti sa judeci pe altul care califica unintreg popor ca prost si tradator cum spui tu, cand tu insuti i- ai dat un calificativ la fel de general.Diagnosticul tau nu are nici o baza stiintifica, e doar parerea ta si asta face ca si sindromul de care vorbesti sa aiba valoare de calificativ.

2. Lets agree to disagree here.Sunt de acord ca situatii de genul acesta se intampla si nu consider ca e hilardeloc. Doar ca, stii la fel de bine ca si mine, la acelasi gen de situatie ( traumatizanta in acest caz) sunt oameni

care reactioneaza diferit. La exemplul stupid pe care l- am dat, doar ca sa fac o paralelao alta femeie ar fi ales

alt drum. Nu toate femeile traumatizate se prostitueaza.

Intrebarea care se pune aici este : de ce noi, tocmai noi, am ales sa tragem dupa noi, mai bine de 20 de ani,consecintele acestui trecut ? Ce anume a facut ca Germania,de exemplu, si ei dupa o experienta foarte

traumatizantasa se mobilizeze rapid si sa-si revina spectaculos? Sunt convinsa ca nu si-au plans de mila si nicinu s-au consolat cu statutul de victima.

Felul in care am reactionat la ceea ce ni s-a intamplat nu are legatura cu felul nostru de a fi?

3. Ok, tu zici ca nu am ales sa fim comunisti. Sa zicem ca e asa cum spui tu. Dar eu nu vorbeam de alegerea de

a fi comunist sau nueu vorbeam de alegerea pe care am facut-o cand comunismul s-a incheiat. Cand in sfarsitam avut libertatea de a alege. Ce-am facut atunci ? Ce am ales ?

Sunt multe de zis, nu am timp din pacate. Sunt o romanca care a ales sa-si creasca copilul singura in strainate

lucrand pentru o companie americana, departe de fantoma lui CeausescuNu cea care ranjeste langa biroul tau

ci aceea care inca trezeste suspine in inimile a milioane de romani ce nu s-au simtit niciodata victime ale

regimului sau. Care nu numai ca au fost luati prin surprindere de revolutie dar nici n-au dorit-o de fapt. Daca

Romania toata ar fi dorit-o cu adevarat n-am fi ajuns sa ne prostituam niciodata.
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22. Cristina

Very interesting analysis! You consider Romanians as one person that suffers of PTSD, or at least the vast

majority of Romanians who still live in Romania and went through all the phases you mentioned.

The way I see whats happening in our country is simpler: it takes time for our nation to purify itself. And when

I say purify, I mean raising generations with sane attitudes and way of thinking. Unfortunately, what happens

right now in Romania is that people our age contribute to corruption. I was 14 yr. old in 89 and now Im a

parent living in Canada. My generation is split: some work in an honest way, some want unhonest earnings.

Both groups are split between Romania and other countries. The purification will occur when most Romanians

will make a living in an honest way and will live in Romania. Lots of thieves and villains are in Europe already

and I hope theyll remain there. Lots of honest people are scattered in Europe and North America and I hopetheyll go back and have a new beginning in Romania, contributing to society and changing it just as they lived

in civilization in west.

Children are now raised in corruption they receive money from their parents to pay for their school grades

and university exams. As long as our generation continues to fund educational system corruption the

purification wont take place. We are the ones who need to teach our children to learn and not to pay for grades.

I think it is our generation who can make a difference in Romania. Communism was traumatic for our parents.

We only know their deprivations and sufferings, but by the time we grew up and became adults, communism

was gone. What happened in the 90s was a big disappointment for me, therefore I immigrated in Canada, but I

didnt go through the PTSD phases you mentioned (my parents probably did), therefore Im very optimistic that

if I go back Ill be able to change something, even if not in the entire society, but at least a small group of people.

I wish you the very best in all your endeavours and hope that youll start convincing Romanians who are abroad

and who gained working experience abroad to go back and raise them from depression.

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Hi George,

While I agree with your diagnostics (i.e. PTSD), may I suggest to take one step back in the analysis?

Fact: since becoming an independent state (1918), Romania and its people had to continue to exist in spite and between the two worst political systems in this planet history: Communism and Fascism, so satanically

embodied by Stalin and Hitler.

For any Tom, Dick and Harry criticising here and anywhere: much of what Romanians are today, is a

consequence of this historical fact. People and nations have been and will forever be judgemental against one

another. However, theres nothing to indicate that any other people wouldve been any better (for lack of a

better word), had they lived in the same circumstances.

cheers,

Liviu

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24. Ovidiu Alexandru Ionescu

Nu sint omul cuvintelor mari iar in elgleza nu ma descurc exceptional la scris asa ca o sa o tin pe romana

pura..individul/individa care posteaza cu sub anonimatul acelui L,personal i-as rupe amindoua mainile sipicioareledin cauza unora ca el/ea natia asta e asa cum e

daca este asa de rusinat ca e roman de ce nu pleaca din tara asta de tradatori si de prosti???daaca este asa

rusinos sa fii roman de ce nu renunti la cetatenia aceasta???

Domnule George articolul imi pare excelent desi putin exagerat si da eu sint mindru ca sint ROMAN

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25. VASILIU MIRCEA PAUL

Of ! Of-of-of, Domnule Alexandru Ionescu !

Mndru c snt papua, egiptean, i ce mai vrei Dvs.

Problema se pune EXACT PE DOS ! Snt romnii (eschimoii, gguzii, udegheii) MNDRI c v au drept

conaional ? CE ai fcut pentru ei ? Maiterre-a- terre: Nu te ntreba ce poate face ara ta pentru tine, ntreab-

te ce poi face TU pentru ara ta (zis-a J.F.K..)

Pornind de aici intrm direct n ghemul de vipere numit ISTORIE. Sntei mndru de nenumratele bulevardeTake Ionescu ? Mai citii ! Eventual urmtorul extras: Remarcabilul satiric romn Caragiale, care a murit anul trecut, moravurile politice n comedia clasic Oscrisoare pierdut Generala lips de principii, prolixitatea fr idei, viclenia vioaie i antajul fr limite iat

prile componente ale atmosferei moral-politice a Romniei conductoare Toate cele trei partide romnetisnt umbrite de spiritul lui Caavencu i al lui Farfuridi. Dar aceti politicieni au atins triumful deplin n

partidul takitilor, oameni fr ziua de ieri i cea de mine, dar cu apetit proaspt care cere recunoaterea

public. Ei, i ? nsui Caragiale, satiricul nemilos al takismului moral, a aderat pe neateptate la takiti cnda avut nevoie, din considerente cotidiene. Acesta e mediul ! Btrnul ef conservator Carp, un nvederatreacionar romantic, dar om cinstit n structura sa, s-a ntlnit imediat dup aceasta cu Caragiale

Mi-a fost dat a exclamat Carp s triesc s te vd pe tine, Caragiale, n rolul lui Caavencu ! Ce vo rbeti, a rspuns fr s clipeasc marele Caragiale eu snt Caavencu? Nu, glumeti ! Caavencu este

respectabilul meu ef, Take Ionescu. Eu snt doar Farfuridi Dup aceea, nu o dat, Caragiale a povestit nepstor acest dialog, care a avut loc pe peronul grii din Ploieti.

Ca s nu ne cantonm exclusiv n domeniul demolrilor v ofer i contra-exemple (mai puin cunoscute): ai

auzit de generalul Alexandru Korne ? Nu ? n mod sigur nu ar fi subscris ruperii de mini i picioare, dei aluptat pe fr ont, fr s se menajeze. Iar ruii, via cozile de topor neaoe, nici att.

Avem eroi ! DA ! Dar nu rupnd membre i nici mpunndu-ne cu afilieri dubioase vom trece de la stadiul triballa cel al unei naiuni veritabile.


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MAI CITII !

Nu tii cine snt udegheii ? V.K. Arseniev Prin taigaua Extremului Orient, Editura MERIDIANE 1987

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26. Nicu B

The author keeps using the term postcolonial when talking about the post-Ceausescu era. This is false.Romania during Ceausescu was a disctatorship, but not a colony. In fact the decolonization of Romania started

in 1958, when the Soviet troops left Romania and culminated in 1968, when Ceausescu took a stand against the

invasion of Czechoslovakia by the USSR and its allies.

In fact today Roamani is far less independent, both politically and economically. We are again a colony, we only

changed our masters. Its no longer USSR, now its USA. Of course, its not as bad as the Soviet occupation, but

its not good either. We are about to be robbed of all our natural resouces: gold, shale gas, copper, oil.

PS Im not a nostalgic of Ceausescu, Im only stating the facts.

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