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Posture Pro

Posture Pro

12 July

When it comes to achieving peak physical performance or pushing yourself

to the extreme limits of endurance what do you think is the most important

part of your physiology The ultimate arbiter of performance is actually

situated right between your ears Thatrsquos right itrsquos your brain

1 ShareLike middot Comment middot Share

Mat Boule and 6 others like this

Write a comment

Posture Pro

10 July

Wersquove all heard of hand-eye coordination but rarely do we hear of body-eye

coordination The body adapting to a dysregulated sensor such as the

extraocular muscles of the eyes often causes the observed osteopathic

lesions and subluxations As such a convergence defect can immediately

result in a tilting of the shoulder and pelvis

Write something

Post PhotoVideo

Friends Following Message

Timeline About Photos 8 Friends 39 Mutual More

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16 people like this

Adam Ridgewell Oh I like this very much Osteopathic lesions Mon langue

favourite Japprend Francais a ce moment pardonnez moi

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Write a comment

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8 July

What are the effects of having fallen arches A valgus foot causes internal

rotations of the lower limbs This faulty alignment increases the risks of ankle

strains sprains and knee injuries Also this rotation increases the risk of

lower See More

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26 people like this

Lisa Dollery Stuart Dollery

8 July at 1827 middot Like

Robert Dowd according to the researchhelliplook at Eyal LeadermanhellipNOTHING

9 July at 0238 middot Like middot 1

James Dodd nice Robert Dowd more and more of the recent research says

that this is really not a problem and often a foot that pronates is a great foot - so

long as it can supinate

9 July at 1556 middot Edited middot Like middot 1

James Dodd a valgus foot that internally rotates your tibia turns on and loads

your gluts effectively too

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Posture Pro shared a link

4 July

Posturology reshapes the way your brain communicates with your muscles by

giving constant information to the body in order to recalibrate posture and

change faulty motor patterns Our methods are the results of clinical and

scientific studies conducted over the last 35 years to allow you to deliver

immediate results to your clients

Check out our blog to find more

httpposturologyblogcomposturology-101

Posturology 101

posturologyblogcom

The human organism consists of trillions of cells that work

together to maintain energy Homeostasis in a general sense

refers to stability balance or equilibrium It is the bodys attempt

to maintain a constant internal environment The adjusting of

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Mat Boule and 4 others like this

Mat Boule Great blog

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Write a comment

Magdalena Lyle

2 July

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25 June

Restricted motion and reflex contractions will cause a drop in muscular

performance exhaustion of glycogen reserves and acidosis For athletes it

is not only a cause of cramps torn ligaments aching muscles and tendonitis

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but also the cause of lowered performance or non-improvement in

performance in spite of training

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Mat Boule and 4 others like this

Charlie Hoolihan Can you please provide some research on this It would be

helpful when we tell our athletes where the info came from Thanks

8 July at 1923 middot Like

Write a comment

Posture Pro

19 June

Most orthopedic pathologies share the same origin abnormal strains caused

by an imbalance in the tonic postural system and its various receptors

These strains will cause tilts and rotations in various parts of the skeleton

and joints The See More

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10 people like this

Write a comment

Posture Pro

16 June

The importance of the tonic postural system cannot be overrated It is

involved in a wide range of pathologies which for lack of proper knowledge

are often treated symptomatically

The postural system is a cybernetic system with two cha See More

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10 people like this

Write a comment

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13 June

For high-level athletes the slightest disequilibrium will have disastrous

repercussions on performance That is because the excessive demands

associated with strain cause over-stimulation of the various gamma loops for

the different postur See More

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Paul Paez Posture Pro

11 June

looking for a doc in Chula Vista and Murrietta california who uses Posture

Pro

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Posture Pro

11 June

Congratulations to our students who completed Posturepros 1-Day

Advanced Eye Program (The Eye Vision and Eye Movement) in Montreal

Check out our website for a list of upcoming events

httpwwwposturepronetupcoming-events

The Eye See More

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Posture Pro

9 June

The skin is the largest organ in the body It is equipped with very precise

mechanoreceptors that can relay information instantaneously back to the

CNS regarding pain pressure and stretching A surgical scar that never fully

heals can bec See More

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Magdalena Lyle

7 June

Posture Pro will be here in Dubai 12th - 14th February 2015 checkout their

website for more information

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6 June

Degenerative Disc Disease is caused by irregular oblique and torsion

constraints and pressure on the intervertebral discs An intervertebral disc

has a lamellar structure that acts as a super shock absorber The discs can

absorb shock in every dimension of space however they do not perform well

when in ldquotorsionrdquo What causes a disc to be in torsion A postural imbalance

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Posture Pro

4 June

Standing up may seem like a simple movement however the decisions to

stand up and stay up send out signals throughout the body to keep you in a

balanced upright position If your sensors (eyes feet skin TMJ) are not

projecting symmetri See More

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Posture Pro

2 June

If you are looking to increase strength performance with your athletes then

Posturology is a great tool to add to your arsenal Although postural

imbalances are very common they are not ideal for your body to function

optimally Humans ar See More

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Proper posture and good eye alignment are two of the most important

elements of a consistent golf swing

Eye exercises can immediately benefit the everyday golfer and widespread

performance breakthrough in putting If your eyes arenrsquot converging properly

chances are that your shoulders are misaligned when you putt

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29 May

The eye is not only an element of vision it is also (with the foot) one of the

most important receptors in the postural system When muscles that move

the eyes are out of balance perception of the environment changes and the

entire body attempts to compensate for that phenomenon In doing so shifts

and rotations of the shoulders and pelvis occur and postural alignment

suffers

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Is There a Point to Training Your Rotator Cuff

The Posturology Blog

Annette Verpillot The fitness industry considers most muscles

as equals Certainly some gurus like to play favorites yet no

one is willing to stand up and say this is the most important

muscle We do know and recognize by now that muscles

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Stabilizing muscles such as the rotator cuff is under the dependence of the

involuntary motor system They are in close contact with the joints and

contain a high amount of type I muscle fibers They are built for endurance

Attempting to recruit these muscles via exercise means the superficial

muscles will kick in first and take over Attempting to train stabilizers is a

waste of time

Is There a Point to Training Your Rotator Cuff

posturologyblogcom

The fitness industry considers most muscles as equals

Certainly some gurus like to play favorites yet no one is willing

to stand up and say this is the most important muscle We do

know and recognize by now that muscles work in chains This

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Vlad Padina Umm

Guys

Did you ever actually pick up a dumbell and try to train your external rotators

Or did you ever do heavy military presses for reps

7 May at 1825 middot Like middot 1

Vlad Padina No really you should try it sometimes

And you should try the bodybuilding concept of creating a mind-muscle

connection

[this was a very polite way of saying this article is almost completely wrong and

provably so]

7 May at 1829 middot Like middot 1

Vlad Padina I mean if your infraspinatus doesnt contract when doing external

rotations and you dont feel it working it probably means its inhibited and other

muscles are taking over

7 May at 1831 middot Edited middot Like

Posture Pro Vlad Padina we once thought the earth was flat (this is a very polite

way of saying you should take our course) to learn how the brain contracts

muscles and how muscle levers work in regards to the respective joint

7 May at 1931 middot Like

Vlad Padina Look you said the IS and TM wont work during isolated external

rotations but rather the posterior delt will take most of the weight

For some weird reason I can thoroughly work my infraspinatus and teres minor

feel the burn in them while working and feel the soreness the next day

And no they are not weak I can use 15 lb for 10 reps on strict external rotations

with the arm near the body and about the same for strict external rotations and I

can also overhead press wo any pain

7 May at 1936 middot Like

Posture Pro Keep up the good work

7 May at 1937 middot Like

Vlad Padina Well why can I feel them working if they dont actually work

7 May at 1944 middot Like

Vlad Padina mr Poliquin recounts how he increased someones bench press

by 50 lb to about 350 just by increasing his ext rotation strength from 8 lb x 8 to

35 lb x 8

7 May at 2110 middot Edited middot Like

Brett Jones I think this can boiled down in this way

strength and stability are different

stability is reflex driven

just because you feel a muscle working doesnt mean it will fire when it is

needed to fire

The feed forward tension of strength training is not the reflex activity needed to get

the stabilizers to fire in the correct sequence

When stabilizers fire first only 20-30 of their MVC is needed - when they dont

then the prime movers take over

All of this depends on joint angle etc in defining what is stabilizing at a

particular point and what is prime moving etc

Train stabilizers allowing for a proprioceptively rich environment where the reflex

activation can be encouraged is the way to go IMO

7 May at 2148 middot Like middot 2

Vlad Padina Simply put if you can see a muscle it is made to move you If you

canrsquot itrsquos made to stabilize you

The infraspinatus is as visible as the biceps brachii and very hypertrophyable

The teres minor is visible Both can get sore after direct and indirect training

Training both directly helped some people get much stronger and get rid of

shoulder pain

Maybe it was expected that readers read between the lines

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But the article says some things which in the way they were stated can be easily

proven wrong

I am not competent in neurology - this I will admit - but the article makes

assertions about mechanics which are somewhat unfounded

Can the author tell us how long would an average lever arm for the posterior delt

be and how long for the infraspinatus

7 May at 2232 middot Edited middot Like

Vlad Padina Also the infraspinatus seems to have better lever arm for external

rotation than the posterior delt and a much better line of pull especially when the

arm is not abducted

7 May at 2238 middot Edited middot Like middot 1

Mat Boule Hi Vlad I have been known to pick up a DB or two in my youth Ill

address your first concept the mind-muscle connection For the mind-muscle

connection to take place you need an involvement of the frontal lobe (motor

cortex) This is occuring everytime you move a limb In that respect it is not a

bodybuilding concept it is basic neurophysiology The question is not whether the

infraspinatus contributes to the ER fo the shoulder or not The question is that

based on levers and mechanical advantage it contributes far less than the rear

deltoid Thats physics not an opinion Feeling a burning sensation in a specific

muscle the next day can mean the muscle contributed to the effort It does not

stipulate if that muscle was acting as a stabilizer as suggested in the blog or a

mobilizer (the common beliefhellip and I did say belief) I understand that you can

see the infraspinatus and the teres minor The idea was to graphically position

muscles superficial versus deep The superficial ones are more easily spotted

and are further away from the joint axis They are if only for that reason better

mobilizers and will mobilize more any day than the deeper muscles

8 May at 0430 middot Like middot 2

Terry Hughes Ha ha said people would get protective over this

8 May at 0845 middot Like middot 1

Vlad Padina Article with measurement of lever arm and angle of pull for post

delt vs infraspinatus Wheeless Orthopaedics says the IS is the main ext rotator

not the delt

8 May at 0854 middot Edited middot Like

Vlad Padina Mat the concept is that you concentrate on the muscle not the

movement Recent EMG measurements (will post the article today it was written

by Bret Contreras) have shown a great difference in activation when the focus

shifts from the movement to the contraction of the specific muscle

8 May at 0924 middot Like

Mat Boule Wheeless can say what it wants Wheeless could have made a

mistake

8 May at 1338 middot Like middot 1

Posture Pro The rear deltoid actually has a lot more lever arm for ER of

shoulder than infraspinatus A such for rear deltoid to perform in ER you need

the infraspinatus and teres minor to stabilize the joint That being said the deltoid

is a phasic muscle and the infraspinatus and teres minor are tonic The idea of

the blog was to raise awareness as to the fact that these muscles serve

complementary yet different functions

8 May at 1422 middot Like middot 2

Vlad Padina Do you haveare there any articles or studies about the lever arms

of each external rotator

8 May at 1942 middot Like

Mat Boule Have you done dissections Vlad

8 May at 1943 middot Like

Vlad Padina Or the angles of pull pf each Much of the post delts strength will

be wasted due to its line of pull

8 May at 1945 middot Like

Vlad Padina No Mat Why

8 May at 1945 middot Like

Vlad Padina Btw is the surface of the greater tubercle further away from the GH

joints axis than the deltoidal tuberosity

8 May at 1946 middot Edited middot Like

Mat Boule In a dissection you can have a 3D perspective that allows you to

understand fully the point made in the blog

8 May at 1946 middot Like middot 1

Mat Boule The rear deltoid (origin and insertion) sits further away from the GH

join than the infraspinatus or teres minor Since these muscles all perform some

ER the rear deltoid has the greatest lever therefore it has the mechanical

advantage

8 May at 1949 middot Like

Vlad Padina So if the rear delt would insert near the elbow it would have a

greater mechanical advantage

8 May at 1951 middot Like

Mat Boule Vlad I will not be hosting a biomechanics course on this thread If

you have further questions about this issue I invite you to contact Posture Pro

directly Have a great day

8 May at 1952 middot Like

Vlad Padina This iswas my last question Please I am really interested in an

answer even a yesno answer to my last question

8 May at 1953 middot Like

Mat Boule If the rear deltoid attached closer to the elbow that to the deltoid

tuberosity it would indeed have a greater lever length that it already does It

would give it more torque around the GH joint to perform ER of the shoulder

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6 May

Congratulations to another group of savvy coaches Luke Watson and Terry

Hughes who just completed levels 3 and 4 of PIPP program and our

Advanced Eye Program Great guys and looking forward to seeing them

excel in the industry Our next programs runs in June in Montreal for more

information go to httpwwwposturepronetupcoming-eventsmontreal

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30 April

Level 3 starts today in Montreal with Luke Watson and Terry Hughes mdash at

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29 April

Off to Montreal today

Posture Pro Levels 3 and 4 and Advanced eye movement and vision training

Taking Performance to another level

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27 April

Dont miss out on day three of the woman show sundaymorning results

live womanshowmontreal posturepro mdash with Jackie Kalfayan and Annette

Verpillot at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal - Montreal Convention Center

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26 April

Its not too late to get your free assessment with Posturepro Hear what Pam

has to say about it We hope to see you here nomopain pam happy mdash

with Jackie Kalfayan at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal - Montreal

Convention Center

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Day two of the Woman Show over 150 postural assessments performed

Donrsquot miss out on your opportunity to find out the link between your posture

and your pain See you there posturepro changinglives nomorepain

painfreeliving fixyourposture posturologyisthefuture mdash with Jackie

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Kalfayan and Annette Verpillot at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal - Montreal

Convention Center

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25 April

Come and see us at the Woman Show at the Palais des Congregraves for a fun

contest and a free Postural Assessment Friday Saturday and Sunday mdash

with Jackie Kalfayan and Annette Verpillot at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal

- Montreal Convention Center (5 photos)

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Can weight lifting fix your posture

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Can weight lifting fix your posture

posturologyblogcom

Itrsquos sad to say that many people care more about how they look then how they

function Check out this before and after photo I applaud his success but now after

seeing his transformation photos I can only hope that he notices his poor posture

His

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Like middot Comment

16 people like this

Adam Ridgewell Oh I like this very much Osteopathic lesions Mon langue

favourite Japprend Francais a ce moment pardonnez moi

10 July at 2217 middot Like

Write a comment

Posture Pro

8 July

What are the effects of having fallen arches A valgus foot causes internal

rotations of the lower limbs This faulty alignment increases the risks of ankle

strains sprains and knee injuries Also this rotation increases the risk of

lower See More

14 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share

26 people like this

Lisa Dollery Stuart Dollery

8 July at 1827 middot Like

Robert Dowd according to the researchhelliplook at Eyal LeadermanhellipNOTHING

9 July at 0238 middot Like middot 1

James Dodd nice Robert Dowd more and more of the recent research says

that this is really not a problem and often a foot that pronates is a great foot - so

long as it can supinate

9 July at 1556 middot Edited middot Like middot 1

James Dodd a valgus foot that internally rotates your tibia turns on and loads

your gluts effectively too

9 July at 1557 middot Like middot 1

Write a comment

7142014 Posture Pro

httpswwwfacebookcomposturepro 315

Posture Pro shared a link

4 July

Posturology reshapes the way your brain communicates with your muscles by

giving constant information to the body in order to recalibrate posture and

change faulty motor patterns Our methods are the results of clinical and

scientific studies conducted over the last 35 years to allow you to deliver

immediate results to your clients

Check out our blog to find more

httpposturologyblogcomposturology-101

Posturology 101

posturologyblogcom

The human organism consists of trillions of cells that work

together to maintain energy Homeostasis in a general sense

refers to stability balance or equilibrium It is the bodys attempt

to maintain a constant internal environment The adjusting of

2 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share

Mat Boule and 4 others like this

Mat Boule Great blog

4 July at 1831 middot Like middot 1

Write a comment

Magdalena Lyle

2 July

Posture Pro

Limited spots Dont miss out

Like middot Comment middot Share

3 people like this

Write a comment

Posture Pro

25 June

Restricted motion and reflex contractions will cause a drop in muscular

performance exhaustion of glycogen reserves and acidosis For athletes it

is not only a cause of cramps torn ligaments aching muscles and tendonitis

7142014 Posture Pro

httpswwwfacebookcomposturepro 415

but also the cause of lowered performance or non-improvement in

performance in spite of training

2 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share

Mat Boule and 4 others like this

Charlie Hoolihan Can you please provide some research on this It would be

helpful when we tell our athletes where the info came from Thanks

8 July at 1923 middot Like

Write a comment

Posture Pro

19 June

Most orthopedic pathologies share the same origin abnormal strains caused

by an imbalance in the tonic postural system and its various receptors

These strains will cause tilts and rotations in various parts of the skeleton

and joints The See More

3 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share

10 people like this

Write a comment

Posture Pro

16 June

The importance of the tonic postural system cannot be overrated It is

involved in a wide range of pathologies which for lack of proper knowledge

are often treated symptomatically

The postural system is a cybernetic system with two cha See More

7142014 Posture Pro

httpswwwfacebookcomposturepro 515

3 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share

10 people like this

Write a comment

Posture Pro

13 June

For high-level athletes the slightest disequilibrium will have disastrous

repercussions on performance That is because the excessive demands

associated with strain cause over-stimulation of the various gamma loops for

the different postur See More

19 2 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share

Paul Paez Posture Pro

11 June

looking for a doc in Chula Vista and Murrietta california who uses Posture

Pro

Like middot Comment

7142014 Posture Pro

httpswwwfacebookcomposturepro 615

Posture Pro

11 June

Congratulations to our students who completed Posturepros 1-Day

Advanced Eye Program (The Eye Vision and Eye Movement) in Montreal

Check out our website for a list of upcoming events

httpwwwposturepronetupcoming-events

The Eye See More

4 3 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share

Posture Pro

9 June

The skin is the largest organ in the body It is equipped with very precise

mechanoreceptors that can relay information instantaneously back to the

CNS regarding pain pressure and stretching A surgical scar that never fully

heals can bec See More

14Like middot Comment

Magdalena Lyle

7 June

Posture Pro will be here in Dubai 12th - 14th February 2015 checkout their

website for more information

7142014 Posture Pro

httpswwwfacebookcomposturepro 715

Like middot Comment middot Share

Posture Pro

6 June

Degenerative Disc Disease is caused by irregular oblique and torsion

constraints and pressure on the intervertebral discs An intervertebral disc

has a lamellar structure that acts as a super shock absorber The discs can

absorb shock in every dimension of space however they do not perform well

when in ldquotorsionrdquo What causes a disc to be in torsion A postural imbalance

11 3 1 ShareLike middot Comment middot Stop Notifications middot Share

Posture Pro

4 June

Standing up may seem like a simple movement however the decisions to

stand up and stay up send out signals throughout the body to keep you in a

balanced upright position If your sensors (eyes feet skin TMJ) are not

projecting symmetri See More

4 2 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share

Posture Pro

2 June

If you are looking to increase strength performance with your athletes then

Posturology is a great tool to add to your arsenal Although postural

imbalances are very common they are not ideal for your body to function

optimally Humans ar See More

ABOUT

President at Posturepro

Secondary School

Lives in Montreal Quebec

Home towncity

Followed by 466 people

Ask

Ask

7142014 Posture Pro

httpswwwfacebookcomposturepro 815

Earlier in 2014

9Like middot Comment middot Share

Posture Pro

30 May

Proper posture and good eye alignment are two of the most important

elements of a consistent golf swing

Eye exercises can immediately benefit the everyday golfer and widespread

performance breakthrough in putting If your eyes arenrsquot converging properly

chances are that your shoulders are misaligned when you putt

7 1 3 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share

Followed by 466 people

middot PHOTOS 8

middot FRIENDS 4857 (39 Mutual)

Charlie

Weingroff Martin Rooney Lou Schuler

Charles Staley Ben Bruno

Cassandra

Forsythe

Tim Larkin Tc Luoma Jim Wendler

middot SPORTS 3

Reacutemy Huleux Jairo Junior Ryan Magin

middot

Posturepro

REVIEWS 1

RECENT ACTIVITY

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Santa Monica CA

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The eye is not only an element of vision it is also (with the foot) one of the

most important receptors in the postural system When muscles that move

the eyes are out of balance perception of the environment changes and the

entire body attempts to compensate for that phenomenon In doing so shifts

and rotations of the shoulders and pelvis occur and postural alignment

suffers

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Is There a Point to Training Your Rotator Cuff

The Posturology Blog

Annette Verpillot The fitness industry considers most muscles

as equals Certainly some gurus like to play favorites yet no

one is willing to stand up and say this is the most important

muscle We do know and recognize by now that muscles

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Stabilizing muscles such as the rotator cuff is under the dependence of the

involuntary motor system They are in close contact with the joints and

contain a high amount of type I muscle fibers They are built for endurance

Attempting to recruit these muscles via exercise means the superficial

muscles will kick in first and take over Attempting to train stabilizers is a

waste of time

Is There a Point to Training Your Rotator Cuff

posturologyblogcom

The fitness industry considers most muscles as equals

Certainly some gurus like to play favorites yet no one is willing

to stand up and say this is the most important muscle We do

know and recognize by now that muscles work in chains This

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Vlad Padina Umm

Guys

Did you ever actually pick up a dumbell and try to train your external rotators

Or did you ever do heavy military presses for reps

7 May at 1825 middot Like middot 1

Vlad Padina No really you should try it sometimes

And you should try the bodybuilding concept of creating a mind-muscle

connection

[this was a very polite way of saying this article is almost completely wrong and

provably so]

7 May at 1829 middot Like middot 1

Vlad Padina I mean if your infraspinatus doesnt contract when doing external

rotations and you dont feel it working it probably means its inhibited and other

muscles are taking over

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Posture Pro Vlad Padina we once thought the earth was flat (this is a very polite

way of saying you should take our course) to learn how the brain contracts

muscles and how muscle levers work in regards to the respective joint

7 May at 1931 middot Like

Vlad Padina Look you said the IS and TM wont work during isolated external

rotations but rather the posterior delt will take most of the weight

For some weird reason I can thoroughly work my infraspinatus and teres minor

feel the burn in them while working and feel the soreness the next day

And no they are not weak I can use 15 lb for 10 reps on strict external rotations

with the arm near the body and about the same for strict external rotations and I

can also overhead press wo any pain

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Posture Pro Keep up the good work

7 May at 1937 middot Like

Vlad Padina Well why can I feel them working if they dont actually work

7 May at 1944 middot Like

Vlad Padina mr Poliquin recounts how he increased someones bench press

by 50 lb to about 350 just by increasing his ext rotation strength from 8 lb x 8 to

35 lb x 8

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Brett Jones I think this can boiled down in this way

strength and stability are different

stability is reflex driven

just because you feel a muscle working doesnt mean it will fire when it is

needed to fire

The feed forward tension of strength training is not the reflex activity needed to get

the stabilizers to fire in the correct sequence

When stabilizers fire first only 20-30 of their MVC is needed - when they dont

then the prime movers take over

All of this depends on joint angle etc in defining what is stabilizing at a

particular point and what is prime moving etc

Train stabilizers allowing for a proprioceptively rich environment where the reflex

activation can be encouraged is the way to go IMO

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Vlad Padina Simply put if you can see a muscle it is made to move you If you

canrsquot itrsquos made to stabilize you

The infraspinatus is as visible as the biceps brachii and very hypertrophyable

The teres minor is visible Both can get sore after direct and indirect training

Training both directly helped some people get much stronger and get rid of

shoulder pain

Maybe it was expected that readers read between the lines

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But the article says some things which in the way they were stated can be easily

proven wrong

I am not competent in neurology - this I will admit - but the article makes

assertions about mechanics which are somewhat unfounded

Can the author tell us how long would an average lever arm for the posterior delt

be and how long for the infraspinatus

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Vlad Padina Also the infraspinatus seems to have better lever arm for external

rotation than the posterior delt and a much better line of pull especially when the

arm is not abducted

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Mat Boule Hi Vlad I have been known to pick up a DB or two in my youth Ill

address your first concept the mind-muscle connection For the mind-muscle

connection to take place you need an involvement of the frontal lobe (motor

cortex) This is occuring everytime you move a limb In that respect it is not a

bodybuilding concept it is basic neurophysiology The question is not whether the

infraspinatus contributes to the ER fo the shoulder or not The question is that

based on levers and mechanical advantage it contributes far less than the rear

deltoid Thats physics not an opinion Feeling a burning sensation in a specific

muscle the next day can mean the muscle contributed to the effort It does not

stipulate if that muscle was acting as a stabilizer as suggested in the blog or a

mobilizer (the common beliefhellip and I did say belief) I understand that you can

see the infraspinatus and the teres minor The idea was to graphically position

muscles superficial versus deep The superficial ones are more easily spotted

and are further away from the joint axis They are if only for that reason better

mobilizers and will mobilize more any day than the deeper muscles

8 May at 0430 middot Like middot 2

Terry Hughes Ha ha said people would get protective over this

8 May at 0845 middot Like middot 1

Vlad Padina Article with measurement of lever arm and angle of pull for post

delt vs infraspinatus Wheeless Orthopaedics says the IS is the main ext rotator

not the delt

8 May at 0854 middot Edited middot Like

Vlad Padina Mat the concept is that you concentrate on the muscle not the

movement Recent EMG measurements (will post the article today it was written

by Bret Contreras) have shown a great difference in activation when the focus

shifts from the movement to the contraction of the specific muscle

8 May at 0924 middot Like

Mat Boule Wheeless can say what it wants Wheeless could have made a

mistake

8 May at 1338 middot Like middot 1

Posture Pro The rear deltoid actually has a lot more lever arm for ER of

shoulder than infraspinatus A such for rear deltoid to perform in ER you need

the infraspinatus and teres minor to stabilize the joint That being said the deltoid

is a phasic muscle and the infraspinatus and teres minor are tonic The idea of

the blog was to raise awareness as to the fact that these muscles serve

complementary yet different functions

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Vlad Padina Do you haveare there any articles or studies about the lever arms

of each external rotator

8 May at 1942 middot Like

Mat Boule Have you done dissections Vlad

8 May at 1943 middot Like

Vlad Padina Or the angles of pull pf each Much of the post delts strength will

be wasted due to its line of pull

8 May at 1945 middot Like

Vlad Padina No Mat Why

8 May at 1945 middot Like

Vlad Padina Btw is the surface of the greater tubercle further away from the GH

joints axis than the deltoidal tuberosity

8 May at 1946 middot Edited middot Like

Mat Boule In a dissection you can have a 3D perspective that allows you to

understand fully the point made in the blog

8 May at 1946 middot Like middot 1

Mat Boule The rear deltoid (origin and insertion) sits further away from the GH

join than the infraspinatus or teres minor Since these muscles all perform some

ER the rear deltoid has the greatest lever therefore it has the mechanical

advantage

8 May at 1949 middot Like

Vlad Padina So if the rear delt would insert near the elbow it would have a

greater mechanical advantage

8 May at 1951 middot Like

Mat Boule Vlad I will not be hosting a biomechanics course on this thread If

you have further questions about this issue I invite you to contact Posture Pro

directly Have a great day

8 May at 1952 middot Like

Vlad Padina This iswas my last question Please I am really interested in an

answer even a yesno answer to my last question

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Mat Boule If the rear deltoid attached closer to the elbow that to the deltoid

tuberosity it would indeed have a greater lever length that it already does It

would give it more torque around the GH joint to perform ER of the shoulder

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29 April

Off to Montreal today

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27 April

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26 April

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Can weight lifting fix your posture

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Can weight lifting fix your posture

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Itrsquos sad to say that many people care more about how they look then how they

function Check out this before and after photo I applaud his success but now after

seeing his transformation photos I can only hope that he notices his poor posture

His

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Posturology reshapes the way your brain communicates with your muscles by

giving constant information to the body in order to recalibrate posture and

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The human organism consists of trillions of cells that work

together to maintain energy Homeostasis in a general sense

refers to stability balance or equilibrium It is the bodys attempt

to maintain a constant internal environment The adjusting of

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Restricted motion and reflex contractions will cause a drop in muscular

performance exhaustion of glycogen reserves and acidosis For athletes it

is not only a cause of cramps torn ligaments aching muscles and tendonitis

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but also the cause of lowered performance or non-improvement in

performance in spite of training

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Charlie Hoolihan Can you please provide some research on this It would be

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Most orthopedic pathologies share the same origin abnormal strains caused

by an imbalance in the tonic postural system and its various receptors

These strains will cause tilts and rotations in various parts of the skeleton

and joints The See More

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The importance of the tonic postural system cannot be overrated It is

involved in a wide range of pathologies which for lack of proper knowledge

are often treated symptomatically

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For high-level athletes the slightest disequilibrium will have disastrous

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Degenerative Disc Disease is caused by irregular oblique and torsion

constraints and pressure on the intervertebral discs An intervertebral disc

has a lamellar structure that acts as a super shock absorber The discs can

absorb shock in every dimension of space however they do not perform well

when in ldquotorsionrdquo What causes a disc to be in torsion A postural imbalance

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Standing up may seem like a simple movement however the decisions to

stand up and stay up send out signals throughout the body to keep you in a

balanced upright position If your sensors (eyes feet skin TMJ) are not

projecting symmetri See More

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29 May

The eye is not only an element of vision it is also (with the foot) one of the

most important receptors in the postural system When muscles that move

the eyes are out of balance perception of the environment changes and the

entire body attempts to compensate for that phenomenon In doing so shifts

and rotations of the shoulders and pelvis occur and postural alignment

suffers

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21 May

Mario is the latest supporter of Posturology We are very excited for this

collaboration and look forward to partnering with Mario on future Posturology

initiatives amp campaigns Stay tuned mdash at Posturepro

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More posts from 7 May to 21

Posture Pro shared a link via NetworkedBlogs

7 May

Is There a Point to Training Your Rotator Cuff

The Posturology Blog

Annette Verpillot The fitness industry considers most muscles

as equals Certainly some gurus like to play favorites yet no

one is willing to stand up and say this is the most important

muscle We do know and recognize by now that muscles

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Posture Pro shared a link

7 May

Stabilizing muscles such as the rotator cuff is under the dependence of the

involuntary motor system They are in close contact with the joints and

contain a high amount of type I muscle fibers They are built for endurance

Attempting to recruit these muscles via exercise means the superficial

muscles will kick in first and take over Attempting to train stabilizers is a

waste of time

Is There a Point to Training Your Rotator Cuff

posturologyblogcom

The fitness industry considers most muscles as equals

Certainly some gurus like to play favorites yet no one is willing

to stand up and say this is the most important muscle We do

know and recognize by now that muscles work in chains This

9 28 6 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share

9 people like this

Vlad Padina Umm

Guys

Did you ever actually pick up a dumbell and try to train your external rotators

Or did you ever do heavy military presses for reps

7 May at 1825 middot Like middot 1

Vlad Padina No really you should try it sometimes

And you should try the bodybuilding concept of creating a mind-muscle

connection

[this was a very polite way of saying this article is almost completely wrong and

provably so]

7 May at 1829 middot Like middot 1

Vlad Padina I mean if your infraspinatus doesnt contract when doing external

rotations and you dont feel it working it probably means its inhibited and other

muscles are taking over

7 May at 1831 middot Edited middot Like

Posture Pro Vlad Padina we once thought the earth was flat (this is a very polite

way of saying you should take our course) to learn how the brain contracts

muscles and how muscle levers work in regards to the respective joint

7 May at 1931 middot Like

Vlad Padina Look you said the IS and TM wont work during isolated external

rotations but rather the posterior delt will take most of the weight

For some weird reason I can thoroughly work my infraspinatus and teres minor

feel the burn in them while working and feel the soreness the next day

And no they are not weak I can use 15 lb for 10 reps on strict external rotations

with the arm near the body and about the same for strict external rotations and I

can also overhead press wo any pain

7 May at 1936 middot Like

Posture Pro Keep up the good work

7 May at 1937 middot Like

Vlad Padina Well why can I feel them working if they dont actually work

7 May at 1944 middot Like

Vlad Padina mr Poliquin recounts how he increased someones bench press

by 50 lb to about 350 just by increasing his ext rotation strength from 8 lb x 8 to

35 lb x 8

7 May at 2110 middot Edited middot Like

Brett Jones I think this can boiled down in this way

strength and stability are different

stability is reflex driven

just because you feel a muscle working doesnt mean it will fire when it is

needed to fire

The feed forward tension of strength training is not the reflex activity needed to get

the stabilizers to fire in the correct sequence

When stabilizers fire first only 20-30 of their MVC is needed - when they dont

then the prime movers take over

All of this depends on joint angle etc in defining what is stabilizing at a

particular point and what is prime moving etc

Train stabilizers allowing for a proprioceptively rich environment where the reflex

activation can be encouraged is the way to go IMO

7 May at 2148 middot Like middot 2

Vlad Padina Simply put if you can see a muscle it is made to move you If you

canrsquot itrsquos made to stabilize you

The infraspinatus is as visible as the biceps brachii and very hypertrophyable

The teres minor is visible Both can get sore after direct and indirect training

Training both directly helped some people get much stronger and get rid of

shoulder pain

Maybe it was expected that readers read between the lines

middot FRIENDS 2014

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Malcolm

Gwilliam Ryan Williams Tom Hibbert

Rhys Perrett

Sean

Christensen Daniel Smith

Marin Lazic

Robert M

Kavanagh

middot EVENTS 2014

Posturology PIPP in Toronto (Levels 1 2 3

amp 4)

With 1 other guest

FREE Webinar An Overview of Posturology

With 47 other guests

Posturology PIPP in London England

(Levels 1 amp 2)

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2014

May

April

March

February

January

2013

2012

2011

2010

2009

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1hArmand Iliescu

MobileEmiliya Author

Claudia Ionita

3hEcaterina Duțulescu

WebJoli Bartha

2hCristina Elena Duhellip

Gabriel Galeano

2hAlvin Zaboloteanu

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WebStan Mihaela Verhellip

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But the article says some things which in the way they were stated can be easily

proven wrong

I am not competent in neurology - this I will admit - but the article makes

assertions about mechanics which are somewhat unfounded

Can the author tell us how long would an average lever arm for the posterior delt

be and how long for the infraspinatus

7 May at 2232 middot Edited middot Like

Vlad Padina Also the infraspinatus seems to have better lever arm for external

rotation than the posterior delt and a much better line of pull especially when the

arm is not abducted

7 May at 2238 middot Edited middot Like middot 1

Mat Boule Hi Vlad I have been known to pick up a DB or two in my youth Ill

address your first concept the mind-muscle connection For the mind-muscle

connection to take place you need an involvement of the frontal lobe (motor

cortex) This is occuring everytime you move a limb In that respect it is not a

bodybuilding concept it is basic neurophysiology The question is not whether the

infraspinatus contributes to the ER fo the shoulder or not The question is that

based on levers and mechanical advantage it contributes far less than the rear

deltoid Thats physics not an opinion Feeling a burning sensation in a specific

muscle the next day can mean the muscle contributed to the effort It does not

stipulate if that muscle was acting as a stabilizer as suggested in the blog or a

mobilizer (the common beliefhellip and I did say belief) I understand that you can

see the infraspinatus and the teres minor The idea was to graphically position

muscles superficial versus deep The superficial ones are more easily spotted

and are further away from the joint axis They are if only for that reason better

mobilizers and will mobilize more any day than the deeper muscles

8 May at 0430 middot Like middot 2

Terry Hughes Ha ha said people would get protective over this

8 May at 0845 middot Like middot 1

Vlad Padina Article with measurement of lever arm and angle of pull for post

delt vs infraspinatus Wheeless Orthopaedics says the IS is the main ext rotator

not the delt

8 May at 0854 middot Edited middot Like

Vlad Padina Mat the concept is that you concentrate on the muscle not the

movement Recent EMG measurements (will post the article today it was written

by Bret Contreras) have shown a great difference in activation when the focus

shifts from the movement to the contraction of the specific muscle

8 May at 0924 middot Like

Mat Boule Wheeless can say what it wants Wheeless could have made a

mistake

8 May at 1338 middot Like middot 1

Posture Pro The rear deltoid actually has a lot more lever arm for ER of

shoulder than infraspinatus A such for rear deltoid to perform in ER you need

the infraspinatus and teres minor to stabilize the joint That being said the deltoid

is a phasic muscle and the infraspinatus and teres minor are tonic The idea of

the blog was to raise awareness as to the fact that these muscles serve

complementary yet different functions

8 May at 1422 middot Like middot 2

Vlad Padina Do you haveare there any articles or studies about the lever arms

of each external rotator

8 May at 1942 middot Like

Mat Boule Have you done dissections Vlad

8 May at 1943 middot Like

Vlad Padina Or the angles of pull pf each Much of the post delts strength will

be wasted due to its line of pull

8 May at 1945 middot Like

Vlad Padina No Mat Why

8 May at 1945 middot Like

Vlad Padina Btw is the surface of the greater tubercle further away from the GH

joints axis than the deltoidal tuberosity

8 May at 1946 middot Edited middot Like

Mat Boule In a dissection you can have a 3D perspective that allows you to

understand fully the point made in the blog

8 May at 1946 middot Like middot 1

Mat Boule The rear deltoid (origin and insertion) sits further away from the GH

join than the infraspinatus or teres minor Since these muscles all perform some

ER the rear deltoid has the greatest lever therefore it has the mechanical

advantage

8 May at 1949 middot Like

Vlad Padina So if the rear delt would insert near the elbow it would have a

greater mechanical advantage

8 May at 1951 middot Like

Mat Boule Vlad I will not be hosting a biomechanics course on this thread If

you have further questions about this issue I invite you to contact Posture Pro

directly Have a great day

8 May at 1952 middot Like

Vlad Padina This iswas my last question Please I am really interested in an

answer even a yesno answer to my last question

8 May at 1953 middot Like

Mat Boule If the rear deltoid attached closer to the elbow that to the deltoid

tuberosity it would indeed have a greater lever length that it already does It

would give it more torque around the GH joint to perform ER of the shoulder

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Itrsquos sad to say that many people care more about how they look then how they

function Check out this before and after photo I applaud his success but now after

seeing his transformation photos I can only hope that he notices his poor posture

His

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but also the cause of lowered performance or non-improvement in

performance in spite of training

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The skin is the largest organ in the body It is equipped with very precise

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constraints and pressure on the intervertebral discs An intervertebral disc

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absorb shock in every dimension of space however they do not perform well

when in ldquotorsionrdquo What causes a disc to be in torsion A postural imbalance

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Standing up may seem like a simple movement however the decisions to

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If you are looking to increase strength performance with your athletes then

Posturology is a great tool to add to your arsenal Although postural

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optimally Humans ar See More

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Proper posture and good eye alignment are two of the most important

elements of a consistent golf swing

Eye exercises can immediately benefit the everyday golfer and widespread

performance breakthrough in putting If your eyes arenrsquot converging properly

chances are that your shoulders are misaligned when you putt

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The eye is not only an element of vision it is also (with the foot) one of the

most important receptors in the postural system When muscles that move

the eyes are out of balance perception of the environment changes and the

entire body attempts to compensate for that phenomenon In doing so shifts

and rotations of the shoulders and pelvis occur and postural alignment

suffers

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Is There a Point to Training Your Rotator Cuff

The Posturology Blog

Annette Verpillot The fitness industry considers most muscles

as equals Certainly some gurus like to play favorites yet no

one is willing to stand up and say this is the most important

muscle We do know and recognize by now that muscles

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7 May

Stabilizing muscles such as the rotator cuff is under the dependence of the

involuntary motor system They are in close contact with the joints and

contain a high amount of type I muscle fibers They are built for endurance

Attempting to recruit these muscles via exercise means the superficial

muscles will kick in first and take over Attempting to train stabilizers is a

waste of time

Is There a Point to Training Your Rotator Cuff

posturologyblogcom

The fitness industry considers most muscles as equals

Certainly some gurus like to play favorites yet no one is willing

to stand up and say this is the most important muscle We do

know and recognize by now that muscles work in chains This

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Vlad Padina Umm

Guys

Did you ever actually pick up a dumbell and try to train your external rotators

Or did you ever do heavy military presses for reps

7 May at 1825 middot Like middot 1

Vlad Padina No really you should try it sometimes

And you should try the bodybuilding concept of creating a mind-muscle

connection

[this was a very polite way of saying this article is almost completely wrong and

provably so]

7 May at 1829 middot Like middot 1

Vlad Padina I mean if your infraspinatus doesnt contract when doing external

rotations and you dont feel it working it probably means its inhibited and other

muscles are taking over

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Posture Pro Vlad Padina we once thought the earth was flat (this is a very polite

way of saying you should take our course) to learn how the brain contracts

muscles and how muscle levers work in regards to the respective joint

7 May at 1931 middot Like

Vlad Padina Look you said the IS and TM wont work during isolated external

rotations but rather the posterior delt will take most of the weight

For some weird reason I can thoroughly work my infraspinatus and teres minor

feel the burn in them while working and feel the soreness the next day

And no they are not weak I can use 15 lb for 10 reps on strict external rotations

with the arm near the body and about the same for strict external rotations and I

can also overhead press wo any pain

7 May at 1936 middot Like

Posture Pro Keep up the good work

7 May at 1937 middot Like

Vlad Padina Well why can I feel them working if they dont actually work

7 May at 1944 middot Like

Vlad Padina mr Poliquin recounts how he increased someones bench press

by 50 lb to about 350 just by increasing his ext rotation strength from 8 lb x 8 to

35 lb x 8

7 May at 2110 middot Edited middot Like

Brett Jones I think this can boiled down in this way

strength and stability are different

stability is reflex driven

just because you feel a muscle working doesnt mean it will fire when it is

needed to fire

The feed forward tension of strength training is not the reflex activity needed to get

the stabilizers to fire in the correct sequence

When stabilizers fire first only 20-30 of their MVC is needed - when they dont

then the prime movers take over

All of this depends on joint angle etc in defining what is stabilizing at a

particular point and what is prime moving etc

Train stabilizers allowing for a proprioceptively rich environment where the reflex

activation can be encouraged is the way to go IMO

7 May at 2148 middot Like middot 2

Vlad Padina Simply put if you can see a muscle it is made to move you If you

canrsquot itrsquos made to stabilize you

The infraspinatus is as visible as the biceps brachii and very hypertrophyable

The teres minor is visible Both can get sore after direct and indirect training

Training both directly helped some people get much stronger and get rid of

shoulder pain

Maybe it was expected that readers read between the lines

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But the article says some things which in the way they were stated can be easily

proven wrong

I am not competent in neurology - this I will admit - but the article makes

assertions about mechanics which are somewhat unfounded

Can the author tell us how long would an average lever arm for the posterior delt

be and how long for the infraspinatus

7 May at 2232 middot Edited middot Like

Vlad Padina Also the infraspinatus seems to have better lever arm for external

rotation than the posterior delt and a much better line of pull especially when the

arm is not abducted

7 May at 2238 middot Edited middot Like middot 1

Mat Boule Hi Vlad I have been known to pick up a DB or two in my youth Ill

address your first concept the mind-muscle connection For the mind-muscle

connection to take place you need an involvement of the frontal lobe (motor

cortex) This is occuring everytime you move a limb In that respect it is not a

bodybuilding concept it is basic neurophysiology The question is not whether the

infraspinatus contributes to the ER fo the shoulder or not The question is that

based on levers and mechanical advantage it contributes far less than the rear

deltoid Thats physics not an opinion Feeling a burning sensation in a specific

muscle the next day can mean the muscle contributed to the effort It does not

stipulate if that muscle was acting as a stabilizer as suggested in the blog or a

mobilizer (the common beliefhellip and I did say belief) I understand that you can

see the infraspinatus and the teres minor The idea was to graphically position

muscles superficial versus deep The superficial ones are more easily spotted

and are further away from the joint axis They are if only for that reason better

mobilizers and will mobilize more any day than the deeper muscles

8 May at 0430 middot Like middot 2

Terry Hughes Ha ha said people would get protective over this

8 May at 0845 middot Like middot 1

Vlad Padina Article with measurement of lever arm and angle of pull for post

delt vs infraspinatus Wheeless Orthopaedics says the IS is the main ext rotator

not the delt

8 May at 0854 middot Edited middot Like

Vlad Padina Mat the concept is that you concentrate on the muscle not the

movement Recent EMG measurements (will post the article today it was written

by Bret Contreras) have shown a great difference in activation when the focus

shifts from the movement to the contraction of the specific muscle

8 May at 0924 middot Like

Mat Boule Wheeless can say what it wants Wheeless could have made a

mistake

8 May at 1338 middot Like middot 1

Posture Pro The rear deltoid actually has a lot more lever arm for ER of

shoulder than infraspinatus A such for rear deltoid to perform in ER you need

the infraspinatus and teres minor to stabilize the joint That being said the deltoid

is a phasic muscle and the infraspinatus and teres minor are tonic The idea of

the blog was to raise awareness as to the fact that these muscles serve

complementary yet different functions

8 May at 1422 middot Like middot 2

Vlad Padina Do you haveare there any articles or studies about the lever arms

of each external rotator

8 May at 1942 middot Like

Mat Boule Have you done dissections Vlad

8 May at 1943 middot Like

Vlad Padina Or the angles of pull pf each Much of the post delts strength will

be wasted due to its line of pull

8 May at 1945 middot Like

Vlad Padina No Mat Why

8 May at 1945 middot Like

Vlad Padina Btw is the surface of the greater tubercle further away from the GH

joints axis than the deltoidal tuberosity

8 May at 1946 middot Edited middot Like

Mat Boule In a dissection you can have a 3D perspective that allows you to

understand fully the point made in the blog

8 May at 1946 middot Like middot 1

Mat Boule The rear deltoid (origin and insertion) sits further away from the GH

join than the infraspinatus or teres minor Since these muscles all perform some

ER the rear deltoid has the greatest lever therefore it has the mechanical

advantage

8 May at 1949 middot Like

Vlad Padina So if the rear delt would insert near the elbow it would have a

greater mechanical advantage

8 May at 1951 middot Like

Mat Boule Vlad I will not be hosting a biomechanics course on this thread If

you have further questions about this issue I invite you to contact Posture Pro

directly Have a great day

8 May at 1952 middot Like

Vlad Padina This iswas my last question Please I am really interested in an

answer even a yesno answer to my last question

8 May at 1953 middot Like

Mat Boule If the rear deltoid attached closer to the elbow that to the deltoid

tuberosity it would indeed have a greater lever length that it already does It

would give it more torque around the GH joint to perform ER of the shoulder

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Congratulations to another group of savvy coaches Luke Watson and Terry

Hughes who just completed levels 3 and 4 of PIPP program and our

Advanced Eye Program Great guys and looking forward to seeing them

excel in the industry Our next programs runs in June in Montreal for more

information go to httpwwwposturepronetupcoming-eventsmontreal

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29 April

Off to Montreal today

Posture Pro Levels 3 and 4 and Advanced eye movement and vision training

Taking Performance to another level

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Posture Pro

27 April

Dont miss out on day three of the woman show sundaymorning results

live womanshowmontreal posturepro mdash with Jackie Kalfayan and Annette

Verpillot at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal - Montreal Convention Center

025

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Posture Pro

26 April

Its not too late to get your free assessment with Posturepro Hear what Pam

has to say about it We hope to see you here nomopain pam happy mdash

with Jackie Kalfayan at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal - Montreal

Convention Center

038

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Posture Pro

26 April

Posture Pro

Day two of the Woman Show over 150 postural assessments performed

Donrsquot miss out on your opportunity to find out the link between your posture

and your pain See you there posturepro changinglives nomorepain

painfreeliving fixyourposture posturologyisthefuture mdash with Jackie

7142014 Posture Pro

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Kalfayan and Annette Verpillot at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal - Montreal

Convention Center

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Posture Pro changed her cover photo

26 April

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25 April

Come and see us at the Woman Show at the Palais des Congregraves for a fun

contest and a free Postural Assessment Friday Saturday and Sunday mdash

with Jackie Kalfayan and Annette Verpillot at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal

- Montreal Convention Center (5 photos)

9 1Like middot Comment

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Can weight lifting fix your posture

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Can weight lifting fix your posture

posturologyblogcom

Itrsquos sad to say that many people care more about how they look then how they

function Check out this before and after photo I applaud his success but now after

seeing his transformation photos I can only hope that he notices his poor posture

His

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For high-level athletes the slightest disequilibrium will have disastrous

repercussions on performance That is because the excessive demands

associated with strain cause over-stimulation of the various gamma loops for

the different postur See More

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11 June

looking for a doc in Chula Vista and Murrietta california who uses Posture

Pro

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Posture Pro

11 June

Congratulations to our students who completed Posturepros 1-Day

Advanced Eye Program (The Eye Vision and Eye Movement) in Montreal

Check out our website for a list of upcoming events

httpwwwposturepronetupcoming-events

The Eye See More

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The skin is the largest organ in the body It is equipped with very precise

mechanoreceptors that can relay information instantaneously back to the

CNS regarding pain pressure and stretching A surgical scar that never fully

heals can bec See More

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Magdalena Lyle

7 June

Posture Pro will be here in Dubai 12th - 14th February 2015 checkout their

website for more information

7142014 Posture Pro

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Posture Pro

6 June

Degenerative Disc Disease is caused by irregular oblique and torsion

constraints and pressure on the intervertebral discs An intervertebral disc

has a lamellar structure that acts as a super shock absorber The discs can

absorb shock in every dimension of space however they do not perform well

when in ldquotorsionrdquo What causes a disc to be in torsion A postural imbalance

11 3 1 ShareLike middot Comment middot Stop Notifications middot Share

Posture Pro

4 June

Standing up may seem like a simple movement however the decisions to

stand up and stay up send out signals throughout the body to keep you in a

balanced upright position If your sensors (eyes feet skin TMJ) are not

projecting symmetri See More

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Posture Pro

2 June

If you are looking to increase strength performance with your athletes then

Posturology is a great tool to add to your arsenal Although postural

imbalances are very common they are not ideal for your body to function

optimally Humans ar See More

ABOUT

President at Posturepro

Secondary School

Lives in Montreal Quebec

Home towncity

Followed by 466 people

Ask

Ask

7142014 Posture Pro

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Earlier in 2014

9Like middot Comment middot Share

Posture Pro

30 May

Proper posture and good eye alignment are two of the most important

elements of a consistent golf swing

Eye exercises can immediately benefit the everyday golfer and widespread

performance breakthrough in putting If your eyes arenrsquot converging properly

chances are that your shoulders are misaligned when you putt

7 1 3 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share

Followed by 466 people

middot PHOTOS 8

middot FRIENDS 4857 (39 Mutual)

Charlie

Weingroff Martin Rooney Lou Schuler

Charles Staley Ben Bruno

Cassandra

Forsythe

Tim Larkin Tc Luoma Jim Wendler

middot SPORTS 3

Reacutemy Huleux Jairo Junior Ryan Magin

middot

Posturepro

REVIEWS 1

RECENT ACTIVITY

Posture is going to Posturology PIPP in

Santa Monica CA

HIGHLIGHTS

Posture Pro

29 May

The eye is not only an element of vision it is also (with the foot) one of the

most important receptors in the postural system When muscles that move

the eyes are out of balance perception of the environment changes and the

entire body attempts to compensate for that phenomenon In doing so shifts

and rotations of the shoulders and pelvis occur and postural alignment

suffers

7142014 Posture Pro

httpswwwfacebookcomposturepro 915

15 4 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share

Posture Pro

21 May

Mario is the latest supporter of Posturology We are very excited for this

collaboration and look forward to partnering with Mario on future Posturology

initiatives amp campaigns Stay tuned mdash at Posturepro

4Like middot Comment

More posts from 7 May to 21

Posture Pro shared a link via NetworkedBlogs

7 May

Is There a Point to Training Your Rotator Cuff

The Posturology Blog

Annette Verpillot The fitness industry considers most muscles

as equals Certainly some gurus like to play favorites yet no

one is willing to stand up and say this is the most important

muscle We do know and recognize by now that muscles

11 7 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share

PHOTOS middot 2014

7142014 Posture Pro

httpswwwfacebookcomposturepro 1015

Posture Pro shared a link

7 May

Stabilizing muscles such as the rotator cuff is under the dependence of the

involuntary motor system They are in close contact with the joints and

contain a high amount of type I muscle fibers They are built for endurance

Attempting to recruit these muscles via exercise means the superficial

muscles will kick in first and take over Attempting to train stabilizers is a

waste of time

Is There a Point to Training Your Rotator Cuff

posturologyblogcom

The fitness industry considers most muscles as equals

Certainly some gurus like to play favorites yet no one is willing

to stand up and say this is the most important muscle We do

know and recognize by now that muscles work in chains This

9 28 6 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share

9 people like this

Vlad Padina Umm

Guys

Did you ever actually pick up a dumbell and try to train your external rotators

Or did you ever do heavy military presses for reps

7 May at 1825 middot Like middot 1

Vlad Padina No really you should try it sometimes

And you should try the bodybuilding concept of creating a mind-muscle

connection

[this was a very polite way of saying this article is almost completely wrong and

provably so]

7 May at 1829 middot Like middot 1

Vlad Padina I mean if your infraspinatus doesnt contract when doing external

rotations and you dont feel it working it probably means its inhibited and other

muscles are taking over

7 May at 1831 middot Edited middot Like

Posture Pro Vlad Padina we once thought the earth was flat (this is a very polite

way of saying you should take our course) to learn how the brain contracts

muscles and how muscle levers work in regards to the respective joint

7 May at 1931 middot Like

Vlad Padina Look you said the IS and TM wont work during isolated external

rotations but rather the posterior delt will take most of the weight

For some weird reason I can thoroughly work my infraspinatus and teres minor

feel the burn in them while working and feel the soreness the next day

And no they are not weak I can use 15 lb for 10 reps on strict external rotations

with the arm near the body and about the same for strict external rotations and I

can also overhead press wo any pain

7 May at 1936 middot Like

Posture Pro Keep up the good work

7 May at 1937 middot Like

Vlad Padina Well why can I feel them working if they dont actually work

7 May at 1944 middot Like

Vlad Padina mr Poliquin recounts how he increased someones bench press

by 50 lb to about 350 just by increasing his ext rotation strength from 8 lb x 8 to

35 lb x 8

7 May at 2110 middot Edited middot Like

Brett Jones I think this can boiled down in this way

strength and stability are different

stability is reflex driven

just because you feel a muscle working doesnt mean it will fire when it is

needed to fire

The feed forward tension of strength training is not the reflex activity needed to get

the stabilizers to fire in the correct sequence

When stabilizers fire first only 20-30 of their MVC is needed - when they dont

then the prime movers take over

All of this depends on joint angle etc in defining what is stabilizing at a

particular point and what is prime moving etc

Train stabilizers allowing for a proprioceptively rich environment where the reflex

activation can be encouraged is the way to go IMO

7 May at 2148 middot Like middot 2

Vlad Padina Simply put if you can see a muscle it is made to move you If you

canrsquot itrsquos made to stabilize you

The infraspinatus is as visible as the biceps brachii and very hypertrophyable

The teres minor is visible Both can get sore after direct and indirect training

Training both directly helped some people get much stronger and get rid of

shoulder pain

Maybe it was expected that readers read between the lines

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But the article says some things which in the way they were stated can be easily

proven wrong

I am not competent in neurology - this I will admit - but the article makes

assertions about mechanics which are somewhat unfounded

Can the author tell us how long would an average lever arm for the posterior delt

be and how long for the infraspinatus

7 May at 2232 middot Edited middot Like

Vlad Padina Also the infraspinatus seems to have better lever arm for external

rotation than the posterior delt and a much better line of pull especially when the

arm is not abducted

7 May at 2238 middot Edited middot Like middot 1

Mat Boule Hi Vlad I have been known to pick up a DB or two in my youth Ill

address your first concept the mind-muscle connection For the mind-muscle

connection to take place you need an involvement of the frontal lobe (motor

cortex) This is occuring everytime you move a limb In that respect it is not a

bodybuilding concept it is basic neurophysiology The question is not whether the

infraspinatus contributes to the ER fo the shoulder or not The question is that

based on levers and mechanical advantage it contributes far less than the rear

deltoid Thats physics not an opinion Feeling a burning sensation in a specific

muscle the next day can mean the muscle contributed to the effort It does not

stipulate if that muscle was acting as a stabilizer as suggested in the blog or a

mobilizer (the common beliefhellip and I did say belief) I understand that you can

see the infraspinatus and the teres minor The idea was to graphically position

muscles superficial versus deep The superficial ones are more easily spotted

and are further away from the joint axis They are if only for that reason better

mobilizers and will mobilize more any day than the deeper muscles

8 May at 0430 middot Like middot 2

Terry Hughes Ha ha said people would get protective over this

8 May at 0845 middot Like middot 1

Vlad Padina Article with measurement of lever arm and angle of pull for post

delt vs infraspinatus Wheeless Orthopaedics says the IS is the main ext rotator

not the delt

8 May at 0854 middot Edited middot Like

Vlad Padina Mat the concept is that you concentrate on the muscle not the

movement Recent EMG measurements (will post the article today it was written

by Bret Contreras) have shown a great difference in activation when the focus

shifts from the movement to the contraction of the specific muscle

8 May at 0924 middot Like

Mat Boule Wheeless can say what it wants Wheeless could have made a

mistake

8 May at 1338 middot Like middot 1

Posture Pro The rear deltoid actually has a lot more lever arm for ER of

shoulder than infraspinatus A such for rear deltoid to perform in ER you need

the infraspinatus and teres minor to stabilize the joint That being said the deltoid

is a phasic muscle and the infraspinatus and teres minor are tonic The idea of

the blog was to raise awareness as to the fact that these muscles serve

complementary yet different functions

8 May at 1422 middot Like middot 2

Vlad Padina Do you haveare there any articles or studies about the lever arms

of each external rotator

8 May at 1942 middot Like

Mat Boule Have you done dissections Vlad

8 May at 1943 middot Like

Vlad Padina Or the angles of pull pf each Much of the post delts strength will

be wasted due to its line of pull

8 May at 1945 middot Like

Vlad Padina No Mat Why

8 May at 1945 middot Like

Vlad Padina Btw is the surface of the greater tubercle further away from the GH

joints axis than the deltoidal tuberosity

8 May at 1946 middot Edited middot Like

Mat Boule In a dissection you can have a 3D perspective that allows you to

understand fully the point made in the blog

8 May at 1946 middot Like middot 1

Mat Boule The rear deltoid (origin and insertion) sits further away from the GH

join than the infraspinatus or teres minor Since these muscles all perform some

ER the rear deltoid has the greatest lever therefore it has the mechanical

advantage

8 May at 1949 middot Like

Vlad Padina So if the rear delt would insert near the elbow it would have a

greater mechanical advantage

8 May at 1951 middot Like

Mat Boule Vlad I will not be hosting a biomechanics course on this thread If

you have further questions about this issue I invite you to contact Posture Pro

directly Have a great day

8 May at 1952 middot Like

Vlad Padina This iswas my last question Please I am really interested in an

answer even a yesno answer to my last question

8 May at 1953 middot Like

Mat Boule If the rear deltoid attached closer to the elbow that to the deltoid

tuberosity it would indeed have a greater lever length that it already does It

would give it more torque around the GH joint to perform ER of the shoulder

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Write a comment

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Hughes who just completed levels 3 and 4 of PIPP program and our

Advanced Eye Program Great guys and looking forward to seeing them

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information go to httpwwwposturepronetupcoming-eventsmontreal

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Off to Montreal today

Posture Pro Levels 3 and 4 and Advanced eye movement and vision training

Taking Performance to another level

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27 April

Dont miss out on day three of the woman show sundaymorning results

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025

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26 April

Its not too late to get your free assessment with Posturepro Hear what Pam

has to say about it We hope to see you here nomopain pam happy mdash

with Jackie Kalfayan at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal - Montreal

Convention Center

038

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26 April

Posture Pro

Day two of the Woman Show over 150 postural assessments performed

Donrsquot miss out on your opportunity to find out the link between your posture

and your pain See you there posturepro changinglives nomorepain

painfreeliving fixyourposture posturologyisthefuture mdash with Jackie

7142014 Posture Pro

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Kalfayan and Annette Verpillot at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal - Montreal

Convention Center

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Come and see us at the Woman Show at the Palais des Congregraves for a fun

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with Jackie Kalfayan and Annette Verpillot at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal

- Montreal Convention Center (5 photos)

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Can weight lifting fix your posture

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Can weight lifting fix your posture

posturologyblogcom

Itrsquos sad to say that many people care more about how they look then how they

function Check out this before and after photo I applaud his success but now after

seeing his transformation photos I can only hope that he notices his poor posture

His

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Congratulations to our students who completed Posturepros 1-Day

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Degenerative Disc Disease is caused by irregular oblique and torsion

constraints and pressure on the intervertebral discs An intervertebral disc

has a lamellar structure that acts as a super shock absorber The discs can

absorb shock in every dimension of space however they do not perform well

when in ldquotorsionrdquo What causes a disc to be in torsion A postural imbalance

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Standing up may seem like a simple movement however the decisions to

stand up and stay up send out signals throughout the body to keep you in a

balanced upright position If your sensors (eyes feet skin TMJ) are not

projecting symmetri See More

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2 June

If you are looking to increase strength performance with your athletes then

Posturology is a great tool to add to your arsenal Although postural

imbalances are very common they are not ideal for your body to function

optimally Humans ar See More

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Proper posture and good eye alignment are two of the most important

elements of a consistent golf swing

Eye exercises can immediately benefit the everyday golfer and widespread

performance breakthrough in putting If your eyes arenrsquot converging properly

chances are that your shoulders are misaligned when you putt

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The eye is not only an element of vision it is also (with the foot) one of the

most important receptors in the postural system When muscles that move

the eyes are out of balance perception of the environment changes and the

entire body attempts to compensate for that phenomenon In doing so shifts

and rotations of the shoulders and pelvis occur and postural alignment

suffers

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Mario is the latest supporter of Posturology We are very excited for this

collaboration and look forward to partnering with Mario on future Posturology

initiatives amp campaigns Stay tuned mdash at Posturepro

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Posture Pro shared a link via NetworkedBlogs

7 May

Is There a Point to Training Your Rotator Cuff

The Posturology Blog

Annette Verpillot The fitness industry considers most muscles

as equals Certainly some gurus like to play favorites yet no

one is willing to stand up and say this is the most important

muscle We do know and recognize by now that muscles

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7 May

Stabilizing muscles such as the rotator cuff is under the dependence of the

involuntary motor system They are in close contact with the joints and

contain a high amount of type I muscle fibers They are built for endurance

Attempting to recruit these muscles via exercise means the superficial

muscles will kick in first and take over Attempting to train stabilizers is a

waste of time

Is There a Point to Training Your Rotator Cuff

posturologyblogcom

The fitness industry considers most muscles as equals

Certainly some gurus like to play favorites yet no one is willing

to stand up and say this is the most important muscle We do

know and recognize by now that muscles work in chains This

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9 people like this

Vlad Padina Umm

Guys

Did you ever actually pick up a dumbell and try to train your external rotators

Or did you ever do heavy military presses for reps

7 May at 1825 middot Like middot 1

Vlad Padina No really you should try it sometimes

And you should try the bodybuilding concept of creating a mind-muscle

connection

[this was a very polite way of saying this article is almost completely wrong and

provably so]

7 May at 1829 middot Like middot 1

Vlad Padina I mean if your infraspinatus doesnt contract when doing external

rotations and you dont feel it working it probably means its inhibited and other

muscles are taking over

7 May at 1831 middot Edited middot Like

Posture Pro Vlad Padina we once thought the earth was flat (this is a very polite

way of saying you should take our course) to learn how the brain contracts

muscles and how muscle levers work in regards to the respective joint

7 May at 1931 middot Like

Vlad Padina Look you said the IS and TM wont work during isolated external

rotations but rather the posterior delt will take most of the weight

For some weird reason I can thoroughly work my infraspinatus and teres minor

feel the burn in them while working and feel the soreness the next day

And no they are not weak I can use 15 lb for 10 reps on strict external rotations

with the arm near the body and about the same for strict external rotations and I

can also overhead press wo any pain

7 May at 1936 middot Like

Posture Pro Keep up the good work

7 May at 1937 middot Like

Vlad Padina Well why can I feel them working if they dont actually work

7 May at 1944 middot Like

Vlad Padina mr Poliquin recounts how he increased someones bench press

by 50 lb to about 350 just by increasing his ext rotation strength from 8 lb x 8 to

35 lb x 8

7 May at 2110 middot Edited middot Like

Brett Jones I think this can boiled down in this way

strength and stability are different

stability is reflex driven

just because you feel a muscle working doesnt mean it will fire when it is

needed to fire

The feed forward tension of strength training is not the reflex activity needed to get

the stabilizers to fire in the correct sequence

When stabilizers fire first only 20-30 of their MVC is needed - when they dont

then the prime movers take over

All of this depends on joint angle etc in defining what is stabilizing at a

particular point and what is prime moving etc

Train stabilizers allowing for a proprioceptively rich environment where the reflex

activation can be encouraged is the way to go IMO

7 May at 2148 middot Like middot 2

Vlad Padina Simply put if you can see a muscle it is made to move you If you

canrsquot itrsquos made to stabilize you

The infraspinatus is as visible as the biceps brachii and very hypertrophyable

The teres minor is visible Both can get sore after direct and indirect training

Training both directly helped some people get much stronger and get rid of

shoulder pain

Maybe it was expected that readers read between the lines

middot FRIENDS 2014

+124

Malcolm

Gwilliam Ryan Williams Tom Hibbert

Rhys Perrett

Sean

Christensen Daniel Smith

Marin Lazic

Robert M

Kavanagh

middot EVENTS 2014

Posturology PIPP in Toronto (Levels 1 2 3

amp 4)

With 1 other guest

FREE Webinar An Overview of Posturology

With 47 other guests

Posturology PIPP in London England

(Levels 1 amp 2)

Recent

2014

May

April

March

February

January

2013

2012

2011

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2009

Born

Posture Pro Timeline 2014 HighlightsMobileRichițeanu Alexahellip

WebCristian Raducanu

1hArmand Iliescu

MobileEmiliya Author

Claudia Ionita

3hEcaterina Duțulescu

WebJoli Bartha

2hCristina Elena Duhellip

Gabriel Galeano

2hAlvin Zaboloteanu

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WebStan Mihaela Verhellip

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But the article says some things which in the way they were stated can be easily

proven wrong

I am not competent in neurology - this I will admit - but the article makes

assertions about mechanics which are somewhat unfounded

Can the author tell us how long would an average lever arm for the posterior delt

be and how long for the infraspinatus

7 May at 2232 middot Edited middot Like

Vlad Padina Also the infraspinatus seems to have better lever arm for external

rotation than the posterior delt and a much better line of pull especially when the

arm is not abducted

7 May at 2238 middot Edited middot Like middot 1

Mat Boule Hi Vlad I have been known to pick up a DB or two in my youth Ill

address your first concept the mind-muscle connection For the mind-muscle

connection to take place you need an involvement of the frontal lobe (motor

cortex) This is occuring everytime you move a limb In that respect it is not a

bodybuilding concept it is basic neurophysiology The question is not whether the

infraspinatus contributes to the ER fo the shoulder or not The question is that

based on levers and mechanical advantage it contributes far less than the rear

deltoid Thats physics not an opinion Feeling a burning sensation in a specific

muscle the next day can mean the muscle contributed to the effort It does not

stipulate if that muscle was acting as a stabilizer as suggested in the blog or a

mobilizer (the common beliefhellip and I did say belief) I understand that you can

see the infraspinatus and the teres minor The idea was to graphically position

muscles superficial versus deep The superficial ones are more easily spotted

and are further away from the joint axis They are if only for that reason better

mobilizers and will mobilize more any day than the deeper muscles

8 May at 0430 middot Like middot 2

Terry Hughes Ha ha said people would get protective over this

8 May at 0845 middot Like middot 1

Vlad Padina Article with measurement of lever arm and angle of pull for post

delt vs infraspinatus Wheeless Orthopaedics says the IS is the main ext rotator

not the delt

8 May at 0854 middot Edited middot Like

Vlad Padina Mat the concept is that you concentrate on the muscle not the

movement Recent EMG measurements (will post the article today it was written

by Bret Contreras) have shown a great difference in activation when the focus

shifts from the movement to the contraction of the specific muscle

8 May at 0924 middot Like

Mat Boule Wheeless can say what it wants Wheeless could have made a

mistake

8 May at 1338 middot Like middot 1

Posture Pro The rear deltoid actually has a lot more lever arm for ER of

shoulder than infraspinatus A such for rear deltoid to perform in ER you need

the infraspinatus and teres minor to stabilize the joint That being said the deltoid

is a phasic muscle and the infraspinatus and teres minor are tonic The idea of

the blog was to raise awareness as to the fact that these muscles serve

complementary yet different functions

8 May at 1422 middot Like middot 2

Vlad Padina Do you haveare there any articles or studies about the lever arms

of each external rotator

8 May at 1942 middot Like

Mat Boule Have you done dissections Vlad

8 May at 1943 middot Like

Vlad Padina Or the angles of pull pf each Much of the post delts strength will

be wasted due to its line of pull

8 May at 1945 middot Like

Vlad Padina No Mat Why

8 May at 1945 middot Like

Vlad Padina Btw is the surface of the greater tubercle further away from the GH

joints axis than the deltoidal tuberosity

8 May at 1946 middot Edited middot Like

Mat Boule In a dissection you can have a 3D perspective that allows you to

understand fully the point made in the blog

8 May at 1946 middot Like middot 1

Mat Boule The rear deltoid (origin and insertion) sits further away from the GH

join than the infraspinatus or teres minor Since these muscles all perform some

ER the rear deltoid has the greatest lever therefore it has the mechanical

advantage

8 May at 1949 middot Like

Vlad Padina So if the rear delt would insert near the elbow it would have a

greater mechanical advantage

8 May at 1951 middot Like

Mat Boule Vlad I will not be hosting a biomechanics course on this thread If

you have further questions about this issue I invite you to contact Posture Pro

directly Have a great day

8 May at 1952 middot Like

Vlad Padina This iswas my last question Please I am really interested in an

answer even a yesno answer to my last question

8 May at 1953 middot Like

Mat Boule If the rear deltoid attached closer to the elbow that to the deltoid

tuberosity it would indeed have a greater lever length that it already does It

would give it more torque around the GH joint to perform ER of the shoulder

7142014 Posture Pro

httpswwwfacebookcomposturepro 1215

8 May at 1954 middot Like

Write a comment

Posture Pro

6 May

Congratulations to another group of savvy coaches Luke Watson and Terry

Hughes who just completed levels 3 and 4 of PIPP program and our

Advanced Eye Program Great guys and looking forward to seeing them

excel in the industry Our next programs runs in June in Montreal for more

information go to httpwwwposturepronetupcoming-eventsmontreal

10 2 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share

More posts from 30 April to 6 May

Posture Pro

30 April

Level 3 starts today in Montreal with Luke Watson and Terry Hughes mdash at

Posturepro

7 2 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share

More posts from 28 April to 30

7142014 Posture Pro

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Terry Hughes

29 April

Off to Montreal today

Posture Pro Levels 3 and 4 and Advanced eye movement and vision training

Taking Performance to another level

20 4Like middot Comment middot Share

Posture Pro

27 April

Dont miss out on day three of the woman show sundaymorning results

live womanshowmontreal posturepro mdash with Jackie Kalfayan and Annette

Verpillot at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal - Montreal Convention Center

025

6Like middot Comment middot Share

Posture Pro

26 April

Its not too late to get your free assessment with Posturepro Hear what Pam

has to say about it We hope to see you here nomopain pam happy mdash

with Jackie Kalfayan at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal - Montreal

Convention Center

038

6Like middot Comment middot Share

Posture Pro

26 April

Posture Pro

Day two of the Woman Show over 150 postural assessments performed

Donrsquot miss out on your opportunity to find out the link between your posture

and your pain See you there posturepro changinglives nomorepain

painfreeliving fixyourposture posturologyisthefuture mdash with Jackie

7142014 Posture Pro

httpswwwfacebookcomposturepro 1415

Kalfayan and Annette Verpillot at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal - Montreal

Convention Center

7Like middot Comment

Posture Pro changed her cover photo

26 April

5 1 ShareLike middot Comment middot Share

Posture Pro

25 April

Come and see us at the Woman Show at the Palais des Congregraves for a fun

contest and a free Postural Assessment Friday Saturday and Sunday mdash

with Jackie Kalfayan and Annette Verpillot at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal

- Montreal Convention Center (5 photos)

9 1Like middot Comment

Posture Pro shared a link

22 April

Can weight lifting fix your posture

7142014 Posture Pro

httpswwwfacebookcomposturepro 1515

Can weight lifting fix your posture

posturologyblogcom

Itrsquos sad to say that many people care more about how they look then how they

function Check out this before and after photo I applaud his success but now after

seeing his transformation photos I can only hope that he notices his poor posture

His

9 2 1 ShareLike middot Comment middot Share

See More 2014 Stories

Page 7: Exemplu de eroare a cuiva cu multă experiență

7142014 Posture Pro

httpswwwfacebookcomposturepro 715

Like middot Comment middot Share

Posture Pro

6 June

Degenerative Disc Disease is caused by irregular oblique and torsion

constraints and pressure on the intervertebral discs An intervertebral disc

has a lamellar structure that acts as a super shock absorber The discs can

absorb shock in every dimension of space however they do not perform well

when in ldquotorsionrdquo What causes a disc to be in torsion A postural imbalance

11 3 1 ShareLike middot Comment middot Stop Notifications middot Share

Posture Pro

4 June

Standing up may seem like a simple movement however the decisions to

stand up and stay up send out signals throughout the body to keep you in a

balanced upright position If your sensors (eyes feet skin TMJ) are not

projecting symmetri See More

4 2 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share

Posture Pro

2 June

If you are looking to increase strength performance with your athletes then

Posturology is a great tool to add to your arsenal Although postural

imbalances are very common they are not ideal for your body to function

optimally Humans ar See More

ABOUT

President at Posturepro

Secondary School

Lives in Montreal Quebec

Home towncity

Followed by 466 people

Ask

Ask

7142014 Posture Pro

httpswwwfacebookcomposturepro 815

Earlier in 2014

9Like middot Comment middot Share

Posture Pro

30 May

Proper posture and good eye alignment are two of the most important

elements of a consistent golf swing

Eye exercises can immediately benefit the everyday golfer and widespread

performance breakthrough in putting If your eyes arenrsquot converging properly

chances are that your shoulders are misaligned when you putt

7 1 3 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share

Followed by 466 people

middot PHOTOS 8

middot FRIENDS 4857 (39 Mutual)

Charlie

Weingroff Martin Rooney Lou Schuler

Charles Staley Ben Bruno

Cassandra

Forsythe

Tim Larkin Tc Luoma Jim Wendler

middot SPORTS 3

Reacutemy Huleux Jairo Junior Ryan Magin

middot

Posturepro

REVIEWS 1

RECENT ACTIVITY

Posture is going to Posturology PIPP in

Santa Monica CA

HIGHLIGHTS

Posture Pro

29 May

The eye is not only an element of vision it is also (with the foot) one of the

most important receptors in the postural system When muscles that move

the eyes are out of balance perception of the environment changes and the

entire body attempts to compensate for that phenomenon In doing so shifts

and rotations of the shoulders and pelvis occur and postural alignment

suffers

7142014 Posture Pro

httpswwwfacebookcomposturepro 915

15 4 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share

Posture Pro

21 May

Mario is the latest supporter of Posturology We are very excited for this

collaboration and look forward to partnering with Mario on future Posturology

initiatives amp campaigns Stay tuned mdash at Posturepro

4Like middot Comment

More posts from 7 May to 21

Posture Pro shared a link via NetworkedBlogs

7 May

Is There a Point to Training Your Rotator Cuff

The Posturology Blog

Annette Verpillot The fitness industry considers most muscles

as equals Certainly some gurus like to play favorites yet no

one is willing to stand up and say this is the most important

muscle We do know and recognize by now that muscles

11 7 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share

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Stabilizing muscles such as the rotator cuff is under the dependence of the

involuntary motor system They are in close contact with the joints and

contain a high amount of type I muscle fibers They are built for endurance

Attempting to recruit these muscles via exercise means the superficial

muscles will kick in first and take over Attempting to train stabilizers is a

waste of time

Is There a Point to Training Your Rotator Cuff

posturologyblogcom

The fitness industry considers most muscles as equals

Certainly some gurus like to play favorites yet no one is willing

to stand up and say this is the most important muscle We do

know and recognize by now that muscles work in chains This

9 28 6 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share

9 people like this

Vlad Padina Umm

Guys

Did you ever actually pick up a dumbell and try to train your external rotators

Or did you ever do heavy military presses for reps

7 May at 1825 middot Like middot 1

Vlad Padina No really you should try it sometimes

And you should try the bodybuilding concept of creating a mind-muscle

connection

[this was a very polite way of saying this article is almost completely wrong and

provably so]

7 May at 1829 middot Like middot 1

Vlad Padina I mean if your infraspinatus doesnt contract when doing external

rotations and you dont feel it working it probably means its inhibited and other

muscles are taking over

7 May at 1831 middot Edited middot Like

Posture Pro Vlad Padina we once thought the earth was flat (this is a very polite

way of saying you should take our course) to learn how the brain contracts

muscles and how muscle levers work in regards to the respective joint

7 May at 1931 middot Like

Vlad Padina Look you said the IS and TM wont work during isolated external

rotations but rather the posterior delt will take most of the weight

For some weird reason I can thoroughly work my infraspinatus and teres minor

feel the burn in them while working and feel the soreness the next day

And no they are not weak I can use 15 lb for 10 reps on strict external rotations

with the arm near the body and about the same for strict external rotations and I

can also overhead press wo any pain

7 May at 1936 middot Like

Posture Pro Keep up the good work

7 May at 1937 middot Like

Vlad Padina Well why can I feel them working if they dont actually work

7 May at 1944 middot Like

Vlad Padina mr Poliquin recounts how he increased someones bench press

by 50 lb to about 350 just by increasing his ext rotation strength from 8 lb x 8 to

35 lb x 8

7 May at 2110 middot Edited middot Like

Brett Jones I think this can boiled down in this way

strength and stability are different

stability is reflex driven

just because you feel a muscle working doesnt mean it will fire when it is

needed to fire

The feed forward tension of strength training is not the reflex activity needed to get

the stabilizers to fire in the correct sequence

When stabilizers fire first only 20-30 of their MVC is needed - when they dont

then the prime movers take over

All of this depends on joint angle etc in defining what is stabilizing at a

particular point and what is prime moving etc

Train stabilizers allowing for a proprioceptively rich environment where the reflex

activation can be encouraged is the way to go IMO

7 May at 2148 middot Like middot 2

Vlad Padina Simply put if you can see a muscle it is made to move you If you

canrsquot itrsquos made to stabilize you

The infraspinatus is as visible as the biceps brachii and very hypertrophyable

The teres minor is visible Both can get sore after direct and indirect training

Training both directly helped some people get much stronger and get rid of

shoulder pain

Maybe it was expected that readers read between the lines

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But the article says some things which in the way they were stated can be easily

proven wrong

I am not competent in neurology - this I will admit - but the article makes

assertions about mechanics which are somewhat unfounded

Can the author tell us how long would an average lever arm for the posterior delt

be and how long for the infraspinatus

7 May at 2232 middot Edited middot Like

Vlad Padina Also the infraspinatus seems to have better lever arm for external

rotation than the posterior delt and a much better line of pull especially when the

arm is not abducted

7 May at 2238 middot Edited middot Like middot 1

Mat Boule Hi Vlad I have been known to pick up a DB or two in my youth Ill

address your first concept the mind-muscle connection For the mind-muscle

connection to take place you need an involvement of the frontal lobe (motor

cortex) This is occuring everytime you move a limb In that respect it is not a

bodybuilding concept it is basic neurophysiology The question is not whether the

infraspinatus contributes to the ER fo the shoulder or not The question is that

based on levers and mechanical advantage it contributes far less than the rear

deltoid Thats physics not an opinion Feeling a burning sensation in a specific

muscle the next day can mean the muscle contributed to the effort It does not

stipulate if that muscle was acting as a stabilizer as suggested in the blog or a

mobilizer (the common beliefhellip and I did say belief) I understand that you can

see the infraspinatus and the teres minor The idea was to graphically position

muscles superficial versus deep The superficial ones are more easily spotted

and are further away from the joint axis They are if only for that reason better

mobilizers and will mobilize more any day than the deeper muscles

8 May at 0430 middot Like middot 2

Terry Hughes Ha ha said people would get protective over this

8 May at 0845 middot Like middot 1

Vlad Padina Article with measurement of lever arm and angle of pull for post

delt vs infraspinatus Wheeless Orthopaedics says the IS is the main ext rotator

not the delt

8 May at 0854 middot Edited middot Like

Vlad Padina Mat the concept is that you concentrate on the muscle not the

movement Recent EMG measurements (will post the article today it was written

by Bret Contreras) have shown a great difference in activation when the focus

shifts from the movement to the contraction of the specific muscle

8 May at 0924 middot Like

Mat Boule Wheeless can say what it wants Wheeless could have made a

mistake

8 May at 1338 middot Like middot 1

Posture Pro The rear deltoid actually has a lot more lever arm for ER of

shoulder than infraspinatus A such for rear deltoid to perform in ER you need

the infraspinatus and teres minor to stabilize the joint That being said the deltoid

is a phasic muscle and the infraspinatus and teres minor are tonic The idea of

the blog was to raise awareness as to the fact that these muscles serve

complementary yet different functions

8 May at 1422 middot Like middot 2

Vlad Padina Do you haveare there any articles or studies about the lever arms

of each external rotator

8 May at 1942 middot Like

Mat Boule Have you done dissections Vlad

8 May at 1943 middot Like

Vlad Padina Or the angles of pull pf each Much of the post delts strength will

be wasted due to its line of pull

8 May at 1945 middot Like

Vlad Padina No Mat Why

8 May at 1945 middot Like

Vlad Padina Btw is the surface of the greater tubercle further away from the GH

joints axis than the deltoidal tuberosity

8 May at 1946 middot Edited middot Like

Mat Boule In a dissection you can have a 3D perspective that allows you to

understand fully the point made in the blog

8 May at 1946 middot Like middot 1

Mat Boule The rear deltoid (origin and insertion) sits further away from the GH

join than the infraspinatus or teres minor Since these muscles all perform some

ER the rear deltoid has the greatest lever therefore it has the mechanical

advantage

8 May at 1949 middot Like

Vlad Padina So if the rear delt would insert near the elbow it would have a

greater mechanical advantage

8 May at 1951 middot Like

Mat Boule Vlad I will not be hosting a biomechanics course on this thread If

you have further questions about this issue I invite you to contact Posture Pro

directly Have a great day

8 May at 1952 middot Like

Vlad Padina This iswas my last question Please I am really interested in an

answer even a yesno answer to my last question

8 May at 1953 middot Like

Mat Boule If the rear deltoid attached closer to the elbow that to the deltoid

tuberosity it would indeed have a greater lever length that it already does It

would give it more torque around the GH joint to perform ER of the shoulder

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Hughes who just completed levels 3 and 4 of PIPP program and our

Advanced Eye Program Great guys and looking forward to seeing them

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information go to httpwwwposturepronetupcoming-eventsmontreal

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29 April

Off to Montreal today

Posture Pro Levels 3 and 4 and Advanced eye movement and vision training

Taking Performance to another level

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26 April

Its not too late to get your free assessment with Posturepro Hear what Pam

has to say about it We hope to see you here nomopain pam happy mdash

with Jackie Kalfayan at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal - Montreal

Convention Center

038

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Posture Pro

Day two of the Woman Show over 150 postural assessments performed

Donrsquot miss out on your opportunity to find out the link between your posture

and your pain See you there posturepro changinglives nomorepain

painfreeliving fixyourposture posturologyisthefuture mdash with Jackie

7142014 Posture Pro

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Kalfayan and Annette Verpillot at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal - Montreal

Convention Center

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Come and see us at the Woman Show at the Palais des Congregraves for a fun

contest and a free Postural Assessment Friday Saturday and Sunday mdash

with Jackie Kalfayan and Annette Verpillot at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal

- Montreal Convention Center (5 photos)

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Can weight lifting fix your posture

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Can weight lifting fix your posture

posturologyblogcom

Itrsquos sad to say that many people care more about how they look then how they

function Check out this before and after photo I applaud his success but now after

seeing his transformation photos I can only hope that he notices his poor posture

His

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Earlier in 2014

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Proper posture and good eye alignment are two of the most important

elements of a consistent golf swing

Eye exercises can immediately benefit the everyday golfer and widespread

performance breakthrough in putting If your eyes arenrsquot converging properly

chances are that your shoulders are misaligned when you putt

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The eye is not only an element of vision it is also (with the foot) one of the

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the eyes are out of balance perception of the environment changes and the

entire body attempts to compensate for that phenomenon In doing so shifts

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Is There a Point to Training Your Rotator Cuff

The Posturology Blog

Annette Verpillot The fitness industry considers most muscles

as equals Certainly some gurus like to play favorites yet no

one is willing to stand up and say this is the most important

muscle We do know and recognize by now that muscles

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Stabilizing muscles such as the rotator cuff is under the dependence of the

involuntary motor system They are in close contact with the joints and

contain a high amount of type I muscle fibers They are built for endurance

Attempting to recruit these muscles via exercise means the superficial

muscles will kick in first and take over Attempting to train stabilizers is a

waste of time

Is There a Point to Training Your Rotator Cuff

posturologyblogcom

The fitness industry considers most muscles as equals

Certainly some gurus like to play favorites yet no one is willing

to stand up and say this is the most important muscle We do

know and recognize by now that muscles work in chains This

9 28 6 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share

9 people like this

Vlad Padina Umm

Guys

Did you ever actually pick up a dumbell and try to train your external rotators

Or did you ever do heavy military presses for reps

7 May at 1825 middot Like middot 1

Vlad Padina No really you should try it sometimes

And you should try the bodybuilding concept of creating a mind-muscle

connection

[this was a very polite way of saying this article is almost completely wrong and

provably so]

7 May at 1829 middot Like middot 1

Vlad Padina I mean if your infraspinatus doesnt contract when doing external

rotations and you dont feel it working it probably means its inhibited and other

muscles are taking over

7 May at 1831 middot Edited middot Like

Posture Pro Vlad Padina we once thought the earth was flat (this is a very polite

way of saying you should take our course) to learn how the brain contracts

muscles and how muscle levers work in regards to the respective joint

7 May at 1931 middot Like

Vlad Padina Look you said the IS and TM wont work during isolated external

rotations but rather the posterior delt will take most of the weight

For some weird reason I can thoroughly work my infraspinatus and teres minor

feel the burn in them while working and feel the soreness the next day

And no they are not weak I can use 15 lb for 10 reps on strict external rotations

with the arm near the body and about the same for strict external rotations and I

can also overhead press wo any pain

7 May at 1936 middot Like

Posture Pro Keep up the good work

7 May at 1937 middot Like

Vlad Padina Well why can I feel them working if they dont actually work

7 May at 1944 middot Like

Vlad Padina mr Poliquin recounts how he increased someones bench press

by 50 lb to about 350 just by increasing his ext rotation strength from 8 lb x 8 to

35 lb x 8

7 May at 2110 middot Edited middot Like

Brett Jones I think this can boiled down in this way

strength and stability are different

stability is reflex driven

just because you feel a muscle working doesnt mean it will fire when it is

needed to fire

The feed forward tension of strength training is not the reflex activity needed to get

the stabilizers to fire in the correct sequence

When stabilizers fire first only 20-30 of their MVC is needed - when they dont

then the prime movers take over

All of this depends on joint angle etc in defining what is stabilizing at a

particular point and what is prime moving etc

Train stabilizers allowing for a proprioceptively rich environment where the reflex

activation can be encouraged is the way to go IMO

7 May at 2148 middot Like middot 2

Vlad Padina Simply put if you can see a muscle it is made to move you If you

canrsquot itrsquos made to stabilize you

The infraspinatus is as visible as the biceps brachii and very hypertrophyable

The teres minor is visible Both can get sore after direct and indirect training

Training both directly helped some people get much stronger and get rid of

shoulder pain

Maybe it was expected that readers read between the lines

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April

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But the article says some things which in the way they were stated can be easily

proven wrong

I am not competent in neurology - this I will admit - but the article makes

assertions about mechanics which are somewhat unfounded

Can the author tell us how long would an average lever arm for the posterior delt

be and how long for the infraspinatus

7 May at 2232 middot Edited middot Like

Vlad Padina Also the infraspinatus seems to have better lever arm for external

rotation than the posterior delt and a much better line of pull especially when the

arm is not abducted

7 May at 2238 middot Edited middot Like middot 1

Mat Boule Hi Vlad I have been known to pick up a DB or two in my youth Ill

address your first concept the mind-muscle connection For the mind-muscle

connection to take place you need an involvement of the frontal lobe (motor

cortex) This is occuring everytime you move a limb In that respect it is not a

bodybuilding concept it is basic neurophysiology The question is not whether the

infraspinatus contributes to the ER fo the shoulder or not The question is that

based on levers and mechanical advantage it contributes far less than the rear

deltoid Thats physics not an opinion Feeling a burning sensation in a specific

muscle the next day can mean the muscle contributed to the effort It does not

stipulate if that muscle was acting as a stabilizer as suggested in the blog or a

mobilizer (the common beliefhellip and I did say belief) I understand that you can

see the infraspinatus and the teres minor The idea was to graphically position

muscles superficial versus deep The superficial ones are more easily spotted

and are further away from the joint axis They are if only for that reason better

mobilizers and will mobilize more any day than the deeper muscles

8 May at 0430 middot Like middot 2

Terry Hughes Ha ha said people would get protective over this

8 May at 0845 middot Like middot 1

Vlad Padina Article with measurement of lever arm and angle of pull for post

delt vs infraspinatus Wheeless Orthopaedics says the IS is the main ext rotator

not the delt

8 May at 0854 middot Edited middot Like

Vlad Padina Mat the concept is that you concentrate on the muscle not the

movement Recent EMG measurements (will post the article today it was written

by Bret Contreras) have shown a great difference in activation when the focus

shifts from the movement to the contraction of the specific muscle

8 May at 0924 middot Like

Mat Boule Wheeless can say what it wants Wheeless could have made a

mistake

8 May at 1338 middot Like middot 1

Posture Pro The rear deltoid actually has a lot more lever arm for ER of

shoulder than infraspinatus A such for rear deltoid to perform in ER you need

the infraspinatus and teres minor to stabilize the joint That being said the deltoid

is a phasic muscle and the infraspinatus and teres minor are tonic The idea of

the blog was to raise awareness as to the fact that these muscles serve

complementary yet different functions

8 May at 1422 middot Like middot 2

Vlad Padina Do you haveare there any articles or studies about the lever arms

of each external rotator

8 May at 1942 middot Like

Mat Boule Have you done dissections Vlad

8 May at 1943 middot Like

Vlad Padina Or the angles of pull pf each Much of the post delts strength will

be wasted due to its line of pull

8 May at 1945 middot Like

Vlad Padina No Mat Why

8 May at 1945 middot Like

Vlad Padina Btw is the surface of the greater tubercle further away from the GH

joints axis than the deltoidal tuberosity

8 May at 1946 middot Edited middot Like

Mat Boule In a dissection you can have a 3D perspective that allows you to

understand fully the point made in the blog

8 May at 1946 middot Like middot 1

Mat Boule The rear deltoid (origin and insertion) sits further away from the GH

join than the infraspinatus or teres minor Since these muscles all perform some

ER the rear deltoid has the greatest lever therefore it has the mechanical

advantage

8 May at 1949 middot Like

Vlad Padina So if the rear delt would insert near the elbow it would have a

greater mechanical advantage

8 May at 1951 middot Like

Mat Boule Vlad I will not be hosting a biomechanics course on this thread If

you have further questions about this issue I invite you to contact Posture Pro

directly Have a great day

8 May at 1952 middot Like

Vlad Padina This iswas my last question Please I am really interested in an

answer even a yesno answer to my last question

8 May at 1953 middot Like

Mat Boule If the rear deltoid attached closer to the elbow that to the deltoid

tuberosity it would indeed have a greater lever length that it already does It

would give it more torque around the GH joint to perform ER of the shoulder

7142014 Posture Pro

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8 May at 1954 middot Like

Write a comment

Posture Pro

6 May

Congratulations to another group of savvy coaches Luke Watson and Terry

Hughes who just completed levels 3 and 4 of PIPP program and our

Advanced Eye Program Great guys and looking forward to seeing them

excel in the industry Our next programs runs in June in Montreal for more

information go to httpwwwposturepronetupcoming-eventsmontreal

10 2 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share

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Posture Pro

30 April

Level 3 starts today in Montreal with Luke Watson and Terry Hughes mdash at

Posturepro

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More posts from 28 April to 30

7142014 Posture Pro

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Terry Hughes

29 April

Off to Montreal today

Posture Pro Levels 3 and 4 and Advanced eye movement and vision training

Taking Performance to another level

20 4Like middot Comment middot Share

Posture Pro

27 April

Dont miss out on day three of the woman show sundaymorning results

live womanshowmontreal posturepro mdash with Jackie Kalfayan and Annette

Verpillot at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal - Montreal Convention Center

025

6Like middot Comment middot Share

Posture Pro

26 April

Its not too late to get your free assessment with Posturepro Hear what Pam

has to say about it We hope to see you here nomopain pam happy mdash

with Jackie Kalfayan at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal - Montreal

Convention Center

038

6Like middot Comment middot Share

Posture Pro

26 April

Posture Pro

Day two of the Woman Show over 150 postural assessments performed

Donrsquot miss out on your opportunity to find out the link between your posture

and your pain See you there posturepro changinglives nomorepain

painfreeliving fixyourposture posturologyisthefuture mdash with Jackie

7142014 Posture Pro

httpswwwfacebookcomposturepro 1415

Kalfayan and Annette Verpillot at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal - Montreal

Convention Center

7Like middot Comment

Posture Pro changed her cover photo

26 April

5 1 ShareLike middot Comment middot Share

Posture Pro

25 April

Come and see us at the Woman Show at the Palais des Congregraves for a fun

contest and a free Postural Assessment Friday Saturday and Sunday mdash

with Jackie Kalfayan and Annette Verpillot at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal

- Montreal Convention Center (5 photos)

9 1Like middot Comment

Posture Pro shared a link

22 April

Can weight lifting fix your posture

7142014 Posture Pro

httpswwwfacebookcomposturepro 1515

Can weight lifting fix your posture

posturologyblogcom

Itrsquos sad to say that many people care more about how they look then how they

function Check out this before and after photo I applaud his success but now after

seeing his transformation photos I can only hope that he notices his poor posture

His

9 2 1 ShareLike middot Comment middot Share

See More 2014 Stories

Page 9: Exemplu de eroare a cuiva cu multă experiență

7142014 Posture Pro

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Posture Pro

21 May

Mario is the latest supporter of Posturology We are very excited for this

collaboration and look forward to partnering with Mario on future Posturology

initiatives amp campaigns Stay tuned mdash at Posturepro

4Like middot Comment

More posts from 7 May to 21

Posture Pro shared a link via NetworkedBlogs

7 May

Is There a Point to Training Your Rotator Cuff

The Posturology Blog

Annette Verpillot The fitness industry considers most muscles

as equals Certainly some gurus like to play favorites yet no

one is willing to stand up and say this is the most important

muscle We do know and recognize by now that muscles

11 7 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share

PHOTOS middot 2014

7142014 Posture Pro

httpswwwfacebookcomposturepro 1015

Posture Pro shared a link

7 May

Stabilizing muscles such as the rotator cuff is under the dependence of the

involuntary motor system They are in close contact with the joints and

contain a high amount of type I muscle fibers They are built for endurance

Attempting to recruit these muscles via exercise means the superficial

muscles will kick in first and take over Attempting to train stabilizers is a

waste of time

Is There a Point to Training Your Rotator Cuff

posturologyblogcom

The fitness industry considers most muscles as equals

Certainly some gurus like to play favorites yet no one is willing

to stand up and say this is the most important muscle We do

know and recognize by now that muscles work in chains This

9 28 6 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share

9 people like this

Vlad Padina Umm

Guys

Did you ever actually pick up a dumbell and try to train your external rotators

Or did you ever do heavy military presses for reps

7 May at 1825 middot Like middot 1

Vlad Padina No really you should try it sometimes

And you should try the bodybuilding concept of creating a mind-muscle

connection

[this was a very polite way of saying this article is almost completely wrong and

provably so]

7 May at 1829 middot Like middot 1

Vlad Padina I mean if your infraspinatus doesnt contract when doing external

rotations and you dont feel it working it probably means its inhibited and other

muscles are taking over

7 May at 1831 middot Edited middot Like

Posture Pro Vlad Padina we once thought the earth was flat (this is a very polite

way of saying you should take our course) to learn how the brain contracts

muscles and how muscle levers work in regards to the respective joint

7 May at 1931 middot Like

Vlad Padina Look you said the IS and TM wont work during isolated external

rotations but rather the posterior delt will take most of the weight

For some weird reason I can thoroughly work my infraspinatus and teres minor

feel the burn in them while working and feel the soreness the next day

And no they are not weak I can use 15 lb for 10 reps on strict external rotations

with the arm near the body and about the same for strict external rotations and I

can also overhead press wo any pain

7 May at 1936 middot Like

Posture Pro Keep up the good work

7 May at 1937 middot Like

Vlad Padina Well why can I feel them working if they dont actually work

7 May at 1944 middot Like

Vlad Padina mr Poliquin recounts how he increased someones bench press

by 50 lb to about 350 just by increasing his ext rotation strength from 8 lb x 8 to

35 lb x 8

7 May at 2110 middot Edited middot Like

Brett Jones I think this can boiled down in this way

strength and stability are different

stability is reflex driven

just because you feel a muscle working doesnt mean it will fire when it is

needed to fire

The feed forward tension of strength training is not the reflex activity needed to get

the stabilizers to fire in the correct sequence

When stabilizers fire first only 20-30 of their MVC is needed - when they dont

then the prime movers take over

All of this depends on joint angle etc in defining what is stabilizing at a

particular point and what is prime moving etc

Train stabilizers allowing for a proprioceptively rich environment where the reflex

activation can be encouraged is the way to go IMO

7 May at 2148 middot Like middot 2

Vlad Padina Simply put if you can see a muscle it is made to move you If you

canrsquot itrsquos made to stabilize you

The infraspinatus is as visible as the biceps brachii and very hypertrophyable

The teres minor is visible Both can get sore after direct and indirect training

Training both directly helped some people get much stronger and get rid of

shoulder pain

Maybe it was expected that readers read between the lines

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But the article says some things which in the way they were stated can be easily

proven wrong

I am not competent in neurology - this I will admit - but the article makes

assertions about mechanics which are somewhat unfounded

Can the author tell us how long would an average lever arm for the posterior delt

be and how long for the infraspinatus

7 May at 2232 middot Edited middot Like

Vlad Padina Also the infraspinatus seems to have better lever arm for external

rotation than the posterior delt and a much better line of pull especially when the

arm is not abducted

7 May at 2238 middot Edited middot Like middot 1

Mat Boule Hi Vlad I have been known to pick up a DB or two in my youth Ill

address your first concept the mind-muscle connection For the mind-muscle

connection to take place you need an involvement of the frontal lobe (motor

cortex) This is occuring everytime you move a limb In that respect it is not a

bodybuilding concept it is basic neurophysiology The question is not whether the

infraspinatus contributes to the ER fo the shoulder or not The question is that

based on levers and mechanical advantage it contributes far less than the rear

deltoid Thats physics not an opinion Feeling a burning sensation in a specific

muscle the next day can mean the muscle contributed to the effort It does not

stipulate if that muscle was acting as a stabilizer as suggested in the blog or a

mobilizer (the common beliefhellip and I did say belief) I understand that you can

see the infraspinatus and the teres minor The idea was to graphically position

muscles superficial versus deep The superficial ones are more easily spotted

and are further away from the joint axis They are if only for that reason better

mobilizers and will mobilize more any day than the deeper muscles

8 May at 0430 middot Like middot 2

Terry Hughes Ha ha said people would get protective over this

8 May at 0845 middot Like middot 1

Vlad Padina Article with measurement of lever arm and angle of pull for post

delt vs infraspinatus Wheeless Orthopaedics says the IS is the main ext rotator

not the delt

8 May at 0854 middot Edited middot Like

Vlad Padina Mat the concept is that you concentrate on the muscle not the

movement Recent EMG measurements (will post the article today it was written

by Bret Contreras) have shown a great difference in activation when the focus

shifts from the movement to the contraction of the specific muscle

8 May at 0924 middot Like

Mat Boule Wheeless can say what it wants Wheeless could have made a

mistake

8 May at 1338 middot Like middot 1

Posture Pro The rear deltoid actually has a lot more lever arm for ER of

shoulder than infraspinatus A such for rear deltoid to perform in ER you need

the infraspinatus and teres minor to stabilize the joint That being said the deltoid

is a phasic muscle and the infraspinatus and teres minor are tonic The idea of

the blog was to raise awareness as to the fact that these muscles serve

complementary yet different functions

8 May at 1422 middot Like middot 2

Vlad Padina Do you haveare there any articles or studies about the lever arms

of each external rotator

8 May at 1942 middot Like

Mat Boule Have you done dissections Vlad

8 May at 1943 middot Like

Vlad Padina Or the angles of pull pf each Much of the post delts strength will

be wasted due to its line of pull

8 May at 1945 middot Like

Vlad Padina No Mat Why

8 May at 1945 middot Like

Vlad Padina Btw is the surface of the greater tubercle further away from the GH

joints axis than the deltoidal tuberosity

8 May at 1946 middot Edited middot Like

Mat Boule In a dissection you can have a 3D perspective that allows you to

understand fully the point made in the blog

8 May at 1946 middot Like middot 1

Mat Boule The rear deltoid (origin and insertion) sits further away from the GH

join than the infraspinatus or teres minor Since these muscles all perform some

ER the rear deltoid has the greatest lever therefore it has the mechanical

advantage

8 May at 1949 middot Like

Vlad Padina So if the rear delt would insert near the elbow it would have a

greater mechanical advantage

8 May at 1951 middot Like

Mat Boule Vlad I will not be hosting a biomechanics course on this thread If

you have further questions about this issue I invite you to contact Posture Pro

directly Have a great day

8 May at 1952 middot Like

Vlad Padina This iswas my last question Please I am really interested in an

answer even a yesno answer to my last question

8 May at 1953 middot Like

Mat Boule If the rear deltoid attached closer to the elbow that to the deltoid

tuberosity it would indeed have a greater lever length that it already does It

would give it more torque around the GH joint to perform ER of the shoulder

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Off to Montreal today

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with Jackie Kalfayan at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal - Montreal

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Day two of the Woman Show over 150 postural assessments performed

Donrsquot miss out on your opportunity to find out the link between your posture

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Can weight lifting fix your posture

posturologyblogcom

Itrsquos sad to say that many people care more about how they look then how they

function Check out this before and after photo I applaud his success but now after

seeing his transformation photos I can only hope that he notices his poor posture

His

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Stabilizing muscles such as the rotator cuff is under the dependence of the

involuntary motor system They are in close contact with the joints and

contain a high amount of type I muscle fibers They are built for endurance

Attempting to recruit these muscles via exercise means the superficial

muscles will kick in first and take over Attempting to train stabilizers is a

waste of time

Is There a Point to Training Your Rotator Cuff

posturologyblogcom

The fitness industry considers most muscles as equals

Certainly some gurus like to play favorites yet no one is willing

to stand up and say this is the most important muscle We do

know and recognize by now that muscles work in chains This

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Vlad Padina Umm

Guys

Did you ever actually pick up a dumbell and try to train your external rotators

Or did you ever do heavy military presses for reps

7 May at 1825 middot Like middot 1

Vlad Padina No really you should try it sometimes

And you should try the bodybuilding concept of creating a mind-muscle

connection

[this was a very polite way of saying this article is almost completely wrong and

provably so]

7 May at 1829 middot Like middot 1

Vlad Padina I mean if your infraspinatus doesnt contract when doing external

rotations and you dont feel it working it probably means its inhibited and other

muscles are taking over

7 May at 1831 middot Edited middot Like

Posture Pro Vlad Padina we once thought the earth was flat (this is a very polite

way of saying you should take our course) to learn how the brain contracts

muscles and how muscle levers work in regards to the respective joint

7 May at 1931 middot Like

Vlad Padina Look you said the IS and TM wont work during isolated external

rotations but rather the posterior delt will take most of the weight

For some weird reason I can thoroughly work my infraspinatus and teres minor

feel the burn in them while working and feel the soreness the next day

And no they are not weak I can use 15 lb for 10 reps on strict external rotations

with the arm near the body and about the same for strict external rotations and I

can also overhead press wo any pain

7 May at 1936 middot Like

Posture Pro Keep up the good work

7 May at 1937 middot Like

Vlad Padina Well why can I feel them working if they dont actually work

7 May at 1944 middot Like

Vlad Padina mr Poliquin recounts how he increased someones bench press

by 50 lb to about 350 just by increasing his ext rotation strength from 8 lb x 8 to

35 lb x 8

7 May at 2110 middot Edited middot Like

Brett Jones I think this can boiled down in this way

strength and stability are different

stability is reflex driven

just because you feel a muscle working doesnt mean it will fire when it is

needed to fire

The feed forward tension of strength training is not the reflex activity needed to get

the stabilizers to fire in the correct sequence

When stabilizers fire first only 20-30 of their MVC is needed - when they dont

then the prime movers take over

All of this depends on joint angle etc in defining what is stabilizing at a

particular point and what is prime moving etc

Train stabilizers allowing for a proprioceptively rich environment where the reflex

activation can be encouraged is the way to go IMO

7 May at 2148 middot Like middot 2

Vlad Padina Simply put if you can see a muscle it is made to move you If you

canrsquot itrsquos made to stabilize you

The infraspinatus is as visible as the biceps brachii and very hypertrophyable

The teres minor is visible Both can get sore after direct and indirect training

Training both directly helped some people get much stronger and get rid of

shoulder pain

Maybe it was expected that readers read between the lines

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Gwilliam Ryan Williams Tom Hibbert

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middot EVENTS 2014

Posturology PIPP in Toronto (Levels 1 2 3

amp 4)

With 1 other guest

FREE Webinar An Overview of Posturology

With 47 other guests

Posturology PIPP in London England

(Levels 1 amp 2)

Recent

2014

May

April

March

February

January

2013

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2011

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2009

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WebCristian Raducanu

1hArmand Iliescu

MobileEmiliya Author

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WebJoli Bartha

2hCristina Elena Duhellip

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But the article says some things which in the way they were stated can be easily

proven wrong

I am not competent in neurology - this I will admit - but the article makes

assertions about mechanics which are somewhat unfounded

Can the author tell us how long would an average lever arm for the posterior delt

be and how long for the infraspinatus

7 May at 2232 middot Edited middot Like

Vlad Padina Also the infraspinatus seems to have better lever arm for external

rotation than the posterior delt and a much better line of pull especially when the

arm is not abducted

7 May at 2238 middot Edited middot Like middot 1

Mat Boule Hi Vlad I have been known to pick up a DB or two in my youth Ill

address your first concept the mind-muscle connection For the mind-muscle

connection to take place you need an involvement of the frontal lobe (motor

cortex) This is occuring everytime you move a limb In that respect it is not a

bodybuilding concept it is basic neurophysiology The question is not whether the

infraspinatus contributes to the ER fo the shoulder or not The question is that

based on levers and mechanical advantage it contributes far less than the rear

deltoid Thats physics not an opinion Feeling a burning sensation in a specific

muscle the next day can mean the muscle contributed to the effort It does not

stipulate if that muscle was acting as a stabilizer as suggested in the blog or a

mobilizer (the common beliefhellip and I did say belief) I understand that you can

see the infraspinatus and the teres minor The idea was to graphically position

muscles superficial versus deep The superficial ones are more easily spotted

and are further away from the joint axis They are if only for that reason better

mobilizers and will mobilize more any day than the deeper muscles

8 May at 0430 middot Like middot 2

Terry Hughes Ha ha said people would get protective over this

8 May at 0845 middot Like middot 1

Vlad Padina Article with measurement of lever arm and angle of pull for post

delt vs infraspinatus Wheeless Orthopaedics says the IS is the main ext rotator

not the delt

8 May at 0854 middot Edited middot Like

Vlad Padina Mat the concept is that you concentrate on the muscle not the

movement Recent EMG measurements (will post the article today it was written

by Bret Contreras) have shown a great difference in activation when the focus

shifts from the movement to the contraction of the specific muscle

8 May at 0924 middot Like

Mat Boule Wheeless can say what it wants Wheeless could have made a

mistake

8 May at 1338 middot Like middot 1

Posture Pro The rear deltoid actually has a lot more lever arm for ER of

shoulder than infraspinatus A such for rear deltoid to perform in ER you need

the infraspinatus and teres minor to stabilize the joint That being said the deltoid

is a phasic muscle and the infraspinatus and teres minor are tonic The idea of

the blog was to raise awareness as to the fact that these muscles serve

complementary yet different functions

8 May at 1422 middot Like middot 2

Vlad Padina Do you haveare there any articles or studies about the lever arms

of each external rotator

8 May at 1942 middot Like

Mat Boule Have you done dissections Vlad

8 May at 1943 middot Like

Vlad Padina Or the angles of pull pf each Much of the post delts strength will

be wasted due to its line of pull

8 May at 1945 middot Like

Vlad Padina No Mat Why

8 May at 1945 middot Like

Vlad Padina Btw is the surface of the greater tubercle further away from the GH

joints axis than the deltoidal tuberosity

8 May at 1946 middot Edited middot Like

Mat Boule In a dissection you can have a 3D perspective that allows you to

understand fully the point made in the blog

8 May at 1946 middot Like middot 1

Mat Boule The rear deltoid (origin and insertion) sits further away from the GH

join than the infraspinatus or teres minor Since these muscles all perform some

ER the rear deltoid has the greatest lever therefore it has the mechanical

advantage

8 May at 1949 middot Like

Vlad Padina So if the rear delt would insert near the elbow it would have a

greater mechanical advantage

8 May at 1951 middot Like

Mat Boule Vlad I will not be hosting a biomechanics course on this thread If

you have further questions about this issue I invite you to contact Posture Pro

directly Have a great day

8 May at 1952 middot Like

Vlad Padina This iswas my last question Please I am really interested in an

answer even a yesno answer to my last question

8 May at 1953 middot Like

Mat Boule If the rear deltoid attached closer to the elbow that to the deltoid

tuberosity it would indeed have a greater lever length that it already does It

would give it more torque around the GH joint to perform ER of the shoulder

7142014 Posture Pro

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8 May at 1954 middot Like

Write a comment

Posture Pro

6 May

Congratulations to another group of savvy coaches Luke Watson and Terry

Hughes who just completed levels 3 and 4 of PIPP program and our

Advanced Eye Program Great guys and looking forward to seeing them

excel in the industry Our next programs runs in June in Montreal for more

information go to httpwwwposturepronetupcoming-eventsmontreal

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30 April

Level 3 starts today in Montreal with Luke Watson and Terry Hughes mdash at

Posturepro

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Terry Hughes

29 April

Off to Montreal today

Posture Pro Levels 3 and 4 and Advanced eye movement and vision training

Taking Performance to another level

20 4Like middot Comment middot Share

Posture Pro

27 April

Dont miss out on day three of the woman show sundaymorning results

live womanshowmontreal posturepro mdash with Jackie Kalfayan and Annette

Verpillot at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal - Montreal Convention Center

025

6Like middot Comment middot Share

Posture Pro

26 April

Its not too late to get your free assessment with Posturepro Hear what Pam

has to say about it We hope to see you here nomopain pam happy mdash

with Jackie Kalfayan at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal - Montreal

Convention Center

038

6Like middot Comment middot Share

Posture Pro

26 April

Posture Pro

Day two of the Woman Show over 150 postural assessments performed

Donrsquot miss out on your opportunity to find out the link between your posture

and your pain See you there posturepro changinglives nomorepain

painfreeliving fixyourposture posturologyisthefuture mdash with Jackie

7142014 Posture Pro

httpswwwfacebookcomposturepro 1415

Kalfayan and Annette Verpillot at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal - Montreal

Convention Center

7Like middot Comment

Posture Pro changed her cover photo

26 April

5 1 ShareLike middot Comment middot Share

Posture Pro

25 April

Come and see us at the Woman Show at the Palais des Congregraves for a fun

contest and a free Postural Assessment Friday Saturday and Sunday mdash

with Jackie Kalfayan and Annette Verpillot at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal

- Montreal Convention Center (5 photos)

9 1Like middot Comment

Posture Pro shared a link

22 April

Can weight lifting fix your posture

7142014 Posture Pro

httpswwwfacebookcomposturepro 1515

Can weight lifting fix your posture

posturologyblogcom

Itrsquos sad to say that many people care more about how they look then how they

function Check out this before and after photo I applaud his success but now after

seeing his transformation photos I can only hope that he notices his poor posture

His

9 2 1 ShareLike middot Comment middot Share

See More 2014 Stories

Page 11: Exemplu de eroare a cuiva cu multă experiență

7142014 Posture Pro

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But the article says some things which in the way they were stated can be easily

proven wrong

I am not competent in neurology - this I will admit - but the article makes

assertions about mechanics which are somewhat unfounded

Can the author tell us how long would an average lever arm for the posterior delt

be and how long for the infraspinatus

7 May at 2232 middot Edited middot Like

Vlad Padina Also the infraspinatus seems to have better lever arm for external

rotation than the posterior delt and a much better line of pull especially when the

arm is not abducted

7 May at 2238 middot Edited middot Like middot 1

Mat Boule Hi Vlad I have been known to pick up a DB or two in my youth Ill

address your first concept the mind-muscle connection For the mind-muscle

connection to take place you need an involvement of the frontal lobe (motor

cortex) This is occuring everytime you move a limb In that respect it is not a

bodybuilding concept it is basic neurophysiology The question is not whether the

infraspinatus contributes to the ER fo the shoulder or not The question is that

based on levers and mechanical advantage it contributes far less than the rear

deltoid Thats physics not an opinion Feeling a burning sensation in a specific

muscle the next day can mean the muscle contributed to the effort It does not

stipulate if that muscle was acting as a stabilizer as suggested in the blog or a

mobilizer (the common beliefhellip and I did say belief) I understand that you can

see the infraspinatus and the teres minor The idea was to graphically position

muscles superficial versus deep The superficial ones are more easily spotted

and are further away from the joint axis They are if only for that reason better

mobilizers and will mobilize more any day than the deeper muscles

8 May at 0430 middot Like middot 2

Terry Hughes Ha ha said people would get protective over this

8 May at 0845 middot Like middot 1

Vlad Padina Article with measurement of lever arm and angle of pull for post

delt vs infraspinatus Wheeless Orthopaedics says the IS is the main ext rotator

not the delt

8 May at 0854 middot Edited middot Like

Vlad Padina Mat the concept is that you concentrate on the muscle not the

movement Recent EMG measurements (will post the article today it was written

by Bret Contreras) have shown a great difference in activation when the focus

shifts from the movement to the contraction of the specific muscle

8 May at 0924 middot Like

Mat Boule Wheeless can say what it wants Wheeless could have made a

mistake

8 May at 1338 middot Like middot 1

Posture Pro The rear deltoid actually has a lot more lever arm for ER of

shoulder than infraspinatus A such for rear deltoid to perform in ER you need

the infraspinatus and teres minor to stabilize the joint That being said the deltoid

is a phasic muscle and the infraspinatus and teres minor are tonic The idea of

the blog was to raise awareness as to the fact that these muscles serve

complementary yet different functions

8 May at 1422 middot Like middot 2

Vlad Padina Do you haveare there any articles or studies about the lever arms

of each external rotator

8 May at 1942 middot Like

Mat Boule Have you done dissections Vlad

8 May at 1943 middot Like

Vlad Padina Or the angles of pull pf each Much of the post delts strength will

be wasted due to its line of pull

8 May at 1945 middot Like

Vlad Padina No Mat Why

8 May at 1945 middot Like

Vlad Padina Btw is the surface of the greater tubercle further away from the GH

joints axis than the deltoidal tuberosity

8 May at 1946 middot Edited middot Like

Mat Boule In a dissection you can have a 3D perspective that allows you to

understand fully the point made in the blog

8 May at 1946 middot Like middot 1

Mat Boule The rear deltoid (origin and insertion) sits further away from the GH

join than the infraspinatus or teres minor Since these muscles all perform some

ER the rear deltoid has the greatest lever therefore it has the mechanical

advantage

8 May at 1949 middot Like

Vlad Padina So if the rear delt would insert near the elbow it would have a

greater mechanical advantage

8 May at 1951 middot Like

Mat Boule Vlad I will not be hosting a biomechanics course on this thread If

you have further questions about this issue I invite you to contact Posture Pro

directly Have a great day

8 May at 1952 middot Like

Vlad Padina This iswas my last question Please I am really interested in an

answer even a yesno answer to my last question

8 May at 1953 middot Like

Mat Boule If the rear deltoid attached closer to the elbow that to the deltoid

tuberosity it would indeed have a greater lever length that it already does It

would give it more torque around the GH joint to perform ER of the shoulder

7142014 Posture Pro

httpswwwfacebookcomposturepro 1215

8 May at 1954 middot Like

Write a comment

Posture Pro

6 May

Congratulations to another group of savvy coaches Luke Watson and Terry

Hughes who just completed levels 3 and 4 of PIPP program and our

Advanced Eye Program Great guys and looking forward to seeing them

excel in the industry Our next programs runs in June in Montreal for more

information go to httpwwwposturepronetupcoming-eventsmontreal

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More posts from 30 April to 6 May

Posture Pro

30 April

Level 3 starts today in Montreal with Luke Watson and Terry Hughes mdash at

Posturepro

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More posts from 28 April to 30

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Terry Hughes

29 April

Off to Montreal today

Posture Pro Levels 3 and 4 and Advanced eye movement and vision training

Taking Performance to another level

20 4Like middot Comment middot Share

Posture Pro

27 April

Dont miss out on day three of the woman show sundaymorning results

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function Check out this before and after photo I applaud his success but now after

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Off to Montreal today

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Day two of the Woman Show over 150 postural assessments performed

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- Montreal Convention Center (5 photos)

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Can weight lifting fix your posture

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Itrsquos sad to say that many people care more about how they look then how they

function Check out this before and after photo I applaud his success but now after

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His

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function Check out this before and after photo I applaud his success but now after

seeing his transformation photos I can only hope that he notices his poor posture

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Itrsquos sad to say that many people care more about how they look then how they

function Check out this before and after photo I applaud his success but now after

seeing his transformation photos I can only hope that he notices his poor posture

His

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